[meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one)

Michael Farmer mike at meteoriteguy.com
Tue Feb 19 15:38:06 EST 2013 

Hey, I'm all for the free market. People make a choice and pay what they want at auction, but when they to sell it, see what is offered......
Michael 


Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 19, 2013, at 1:15 PM, Matt Morgan <mail at mhmeteorites.com> wrote:

> A small piece sold for 157,000 per gram on Ebay.
> No reserve auction.
> Matt
> 
> Michael Farmer <mike at meteoriteguy.com> wrote:
> 
>> Who said this would be $500 gram? There is always idiotic numbers
>> floating around. As a massive fall it will be a fair price I am sure.
>> Anyway the free market will work, price too high, no sales. Black
>> beauty was sold abs marketed for $20k gram.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Feb 19, 2013, at 1:07 PM, Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I am not calling it boring.  I think it is very exciting but not
>> $500.00 gram exciting.  The event itself is astonishing but at $500.00
>> a gram, it is more than 10 times higher than Pultusk!  In my opinion,
>> Anybody asking $20,000.00 a gram for a Martian meteorite these days is
>> being plan greedy.
>>> 
>>> Adam
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Michael Farmer <mike at meteoriteguy.com>
>>> To: Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com>
>>> Cc: Adam <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 11:57 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only
>> pick one)
>>> 
>>> Adam, those who bought black beauty for $20,000 gram will lose 90%.
>>> I expect this Russia fall to be couple bucks a gram for larger
>> material. 
>>> Anyone paying $50+ gram for this will be an idiot just like those
>> buying fakes on eBay. Please don't stoop to calling this a boring
>> ordinary meteorite, it isn't!
>>> Call it anything you want, a nuclear-bomb blast magnitude common
>> chondrite on the news 24/7 for last 5 days, "Gimme Gimme gimme"!
>>> Michael Farmer
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Feb 19, 2013, at 12:49 PM, Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> This is what makes meteorite collecting interesting.  Some prefer
>> falls and some prefer rare types.  I am saying that historically, there
>> is way more bang for the buck in a planetary piece than a fall unless
>> it is a planetary fall.  The last Martian fall maintains around 40% of
>> the initial offering price whereas the last several chondrite falls
>> only maintains about 10-20% of their initial offer price.  For the most
>> part, unless some dealer becomes desperate and charges way too much on
>> his credit card, Planetary finds have the best record for maintaining
>> price in the long run.
>>>> 
>>>> With over a dozen falls a year, Ordinary Chondrite falls are
>> literately a dime a dozen these days, excuse the pun.  You can purchase
>> very old witnessed falls at a bargain by comparison to more recent
>> falls with asking prices much higher.  I would prefer very old falls
>> for investment purposes. 
>>>> 
>>>> I like planetary pieces above all else and to me, they will always
>> be king.
>>>> 
>>>> Adam
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> From: Michael Farmer <mike at meteoriteguy.com>
>>>> To: Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com> 
>>>> Cc: Adam <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> 
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 10:55 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only
>> pick one)
>>>> 
>>>> Sorry Adam, but this fall has been seen in every country and every
>> tv in the world. I would not expect it to be expensive because for sure
>> thousands of stones will be recovered. The price on black beauty is
>> insane, already dropping and I have Moroccans begging me to buy it.
>> This Russian fall has excited the world, my sales are surging because
>> of interest. 
>>>> I will take a bet with you, this Russian meteorite will fill every
>> collection in the world and Black beauty will be owned by very few
>> people.
>>>> I know where I am going to put my money.
>>>> 
>>>> Michael Farmer
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>> 
>>>> On Feb 19, 2013, at 11:13 AM, Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> In my opinion, the Martian Breccia is far more important than an
>> Ordinary Chondrite and will hold its value better than a witnessed fall
>> with thousands of pieces on the market..  A witnessed fall may very
>> well lose 90% of its value within a month or two once its coolness
>> factor wears off.  The real story is in the event and once the limited
>> amount of collectors get their hands on some, the demand drops off
>> quickly.  On the other hand, the way overpriced Martian meteorite will
>> be appreciated much longer unless pairings and competition drag the
>> price down.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I always wait at least six months before investing in either one so
>> that I am am not paying 4 to 10 times its settled value.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Adam
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: Matt Morgan <mail at mhmeteorites.com>
>>>>> To: Mark Ford <mark.ford at southernscientific.co.uk>;
>> "Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com"
>> <Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>>>>> Cc: 
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 8:49 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only
>> pick one)
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'll take the Martian if we are playing that game.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mark Ford <mark.ford at southernscientific.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Aw, invoking shrodinger's cat is cheating!  :)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ok, in this universe, i'll take the Russian, in the other one the
>>>>>> Martian..
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> lol
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
>>>>>> [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of
>> Mendy
>>>>>> Ouzillou
>>>>>> Sent: 19 February 2013 15:57
>>>>>> To: Michael Farmer; Matt Morgan
>>>>>> Cc: Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only
>> pick
>>>>>> one)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Agreed, they are both cool.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So if Schrodinger's cat can be dead and alive at the same time, I
>> would
>>>>>> ignore the rules and get both. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Mendy Ouzillou
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>> From: Michael Farmer <mike at meteoriteguy.com>
>>>>>>> To: Matt Morgan <mail at mhmeteorites.com>
>>>>>>> Cc: "Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com" 
>>>>>>> <Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 7:35 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can
>> only
>>>>>> pick
>>>>>>> one)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> But one problem, the Russian fall is likely going to be
>> relatively
>>>>>> cheap, I am sure hundreds of kilos will be found and the price
>> will
>>>>>> likely be low. For $500 people will be able to buy one or many
>> stones.
>>>>>> $500 in black beauty gets you a speck hardly identifiable as a
>>>>>> meteorite.
>>>>>>> Both are very interesting meteorites, scientifically the Mars is
>> more
>>>>>> interesting but dynamically the Russian fall is history-book
>> material.
>>>>>>> No comparison in my opinion:)
>>>>>>> I'll be in Russia very soon, so get your pennies counted:)
>> Michael 
>>>>>>> Farmer
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Feb 19, 2013, at 8:27 AM, Matt Morgan <mail at mhmeteorites.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Why discriminate? Both are history-making meteorites in their
>> own
>>>>>> rights. Black Beauty is not just another Mars rock and the Russian
>> fall
>>>>>> is far from ordinary. We should see this as an opportunity (if
>> there is
>>>>>> the opportunity to own the Russian fall) and them both to our
>>>>>> collections. 
>>>>>>>> Matt
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Mark Ford <mark.ford at southernscientific.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Given there is probably more tkw of black beauty than chebarkul
>> at 
>>>>>>>>> the moment -  give me 'the Russian blonde'!  :)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
>>>>>>>>> [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf
>> Of 
>>>>>>>>> Don Merchant
>>>>>>>>> Sent: 19 February 2013 13:14
>>>>>>>>> To: Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>>>>>>>>> Cc: Don Merchant
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only
>> pick
>>>>>>>>> one)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi List. What an exciting week in the world of
>>>>>> meteorites/asteroids! 
>>>>>>>>> So here goes...If you had only the choice of picking one small 
>>>>>>>>> fragment for your collection what would it be. Here are the
>>>>>> choices:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Black Beauty Martian meteorite NWA 7034 or A fragment of the
>> recent
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> and most historic event of the Russian meteorite in Chebarkul.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Lets just say for ships and giggles that if you pick one you
>> can 
>>>>>>>>> never have the other!
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Sincerely
>>>>>>>>> Don Merchant
>>>>>>>>> Founder-Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders 
>>>>>>>>> www.ctreasurescwonders.com IMCA #0960
>>>>>>>>> 
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