[meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one)

Matt Morgan mail at mhmeteorites.com
Tue Feb 19 15:41:35 EST 2013 

Sounds good. 


Michael Farmer <mike at meteoriteguy.com> wrote:

>Hey, I'm all for the free market. People make a choice and pay what
>they want at auction, but when they to sell it, see what is
>offered......
>Michael 
>
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>On Feb 19, 2013, at 1:15 PM, Matt Morgan <mail at mhmeteorites.com> wrote:
>
>> A small piece sold for 157,000 per gram on Ebay.
>> No reserve auction.
>> Matt
>> 
>> Michael Farmer <mike at meteoriteguy.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Who said this would be $500 gram? There is always idiotic numbers
>>> floating around. As a massive fall it will be a fair price I am
>sure.
>>> Anyway the free market will work, price too high, no sales. Black
>>> beauty was sold abs marketed for $20k gram.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Feb 19, 2013, at 1:07 PM, Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I am not calling it boring.  I think it is very exciting but not
>>> $500.00 gram exciting.  The event itself is astonishing but at
>$500.00
>>> a gram, it is more than 10 times higher than Pultusk!  In my
>opinion,
>>> Anybody asking $20,000.00 a gram for a Martian meteorite these days
>is
>>> being plan greedy.
>>>> 
>>>> Adam
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: Michael Farmer <mike at meteoriteguy.com>
>>>> To: Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com>
>>>> Cc: Adam <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 11:57 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only
>>> pick one)
>>>> 
>>>> Adam, those who bought black beauty for $20,000 gram will lose 90%.
>>>> I expect this Russia fall to be couple bucks a gram for larger
>>> material. 
>>>> Anyone paying $50+ gram for this will be an idiot just like those
>>> buying fakes on eBay. Please don't stoop to calling this a boring
>>> ordinary meteorite, it isn't!
>>>> Call it anything you want, a nuclear-bomb blast magnitude common
>>> chondrite on the news 24/7 for last 5 days, "Gimme Gimme gimme"!
>>>> Michael Farmer
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On Feb 19, 2013, at 12:49 PM, Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> This is what makes meteorite collecting interesting.  Some prefer
>>> falls and some prefer rare types.  I am saying that historically,
>there
>>> is way more bang for the buck in a planetary piece than a fall
>unless
>>> it is a planetary fall.  The last Martian fall maintains around 40%
>of
>>> the initial offering price whereas the last several chondrite falls
>>> only maintains about 10-20% of their initial offer price.  For the
>most
>>> part, unless some dealer becomes desperate and charges way too much
>on
>>> his credit card, Planetary finds have the best record for
>maintaining
>>> price in the long run.
>>>>> 
>>>>> With over a dozen falls a year, Ordinary Chondrite falls are
>>> literately a dime a dozen these days, excuse the pun.  You can
>purchase
>>> very old witnessed falls at a bargain by comparison to more recent
>>> falls with asking prices much higher.  I would prefer very old falls
>>> for investment purposes. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I like planetary pieces above all else and to me, they will always
>>> be king.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Adam
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>> From: Michael Farmer <mike at meteoriteguy.com>
>>>>> To: Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com> 
>>>>> Cc: Adam <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> 
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 10:55 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only
>>> pick one)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sorry Adam, but this fall has been seen in every country and every
>>> tv in the world. I would not expect it to be expensive because for
>sure
>>> thousands of stones will be recovered. The price on black beauty is
>>> insane, already dropping and I have Moroccans begging me to buy it.
>>> This Russian fall has excited the world, my sales are surging
>because
>>> of interest. 
>>>>> I will take a bet with you, this Russian meteorite will fill every
>>> collection in the world and Black beauty will be owned by very few
>>> people.
>>>>> I know where I am going to put my money.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Michael Farmer
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 19, 2013, at 11:13 AM, Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> In my opinion, the Martian Breccia is far more important than an
>>> Ordinary Chondrite and will hold its value better than a witnessed
>fall
>>> with thousands of pieces on the market..  A witnessed fall may very
>>> well lose 90% of its value within a month or two once its coolness
>>> factor wears off.  The real story is in the event and once the
>limited
>>> amount of collectors get their hands on some, the demand drops off
>>> quickly.  On the other hand, the way overpriced Martian meteorite
>will
>>> be appreciated much longer unless pairings and competition drag the
>>> price down.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I always wait at least six months before investing in either one
>so
>>> that I am am not paying 4 to 10 times its settled value.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Adam
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: Matt Morgan <mail at mhmeteorites.com>
>>>>>> To: Mark Ford <mark.ford at southernscientific.co.uk>;
>>> "Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com"
>>> <Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>>>>>> Cc: 
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 8:49 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can
>only
>>> pick one)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'll take the Martian if we are playing that game.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Mark Ford <mark.ford at southernscientific.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Aw, invoking shrodinger's cat is cheating!  :)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Ok, in this universe, i'll take the Russian, in the other one
>the
>>>>>>> Martian..
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> lol
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
>>>>>>> [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf
>Of
>>> Mendy
>>>>>>> Ouzillou
>>>>>>> Sent: 19 February 2013 15:57
>>>>>>> To: Michael Farmer; Matt Morgan
>>>>>>> Cc: Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can
>only
>>> pick
>>>>>>> one)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Agreed, they are both cool.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> So if Schrodinger's cat can be dead and alive at the same time,
>I
>>> would
>>>>>>> ignore the rules and get both. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Mendy Ouzillou
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>>> From: Michael Farmer <mike at meteoriteguy.com>
>>>>>>>> To: Matt Morgan <mail at mhmeteorites.com>
>>>>>>>> Cc: "Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com" 
>>>>>>>> <Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 7:35 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can
>>> only
>>>>>>> pick
>>>>>>>> one)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> But one problem, the Russian fall is likely going to be
>>> relatively
>>>>>>> cheap, I am sure hundreds of kilos will be found and the price
>>> will
>>>>>>> likely be low. For $500 people will be able to buy one or many
>>> stones.
>>>>>>> $500 in black beauty gets you a speck hardly identifiable as a
>>>>>>> meteorite.
>>>>>>>> Both are very interesting meteorites, scientifically the Mars
>is
>>> more
>>>>>>> interesting but dynamically the Russian fall is history-book
>>> material.
>>>>>>>> No comparison in my opinion:)
>>>>>>>> I'll be in Russia very soon, so get your pennies counted:)
>>> Michael 
>>>>>>>> Farmer
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Feb 19, 2013, at 8:27 AM, Matt Morgan
><mail at mhmeteorites.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Why discriminate? Both are history-making meteorites in their
>>> own
>>>>>>> rights. Black Beauty is not just another Mars rock and the
>Russian
>>> fall
>>>>>>> is far from ordinary. We should see this as an opportunity (if
>>> there is
>>>>>>> the opportunity to own the Russian fall) and them both to our
>>>>>>> collections. 
>>>>>>>>> Matt
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Mark Ford <mark.ford at southernscientific.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Given there is probably more tkw of black beauty than
>chebarkul
>>> at 
>>>>>>>>>> the moment -  give me 'the Russian blonde'!  :)
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] On
>Behalf
>>> Of 
>>>>>>>>>> Don Merchant
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: 19 February 2013 13:14
>>>>>>>>>> To: Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>>>>>>>>>> Cc: Don Merchant
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can
>only
>>> pick
>>>>>>>>>> one)
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hi List. What an exciting week in the world of
>>>>>>> meteorites/asteroids! 
>>>>>>>>>> So here goes...If you had only the choice of picking one
>small 
>>>>>>>>>> fragment for your collection what would it be.
-- 
Matt Morgan
Mile High Meteorites
PO Box 151293
Lakewood CO 80215 USA
http://www.mhmeteorites.com
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