[meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one)

Matt Morgan mail at mhmeteorites.com
Tue Feb 19 15:15:25 EST 2013 

A small piece sold for 157,000 per gram on Ebay.
No reserve auction.
Matt

Michael Farmer <mike at meteoriteguy.com> wrote:

>Who said this would be $500 gram? There is always idiotic numbers
>floating around. As a massive fall it will be a fair price I am sure.
>Anyway the free market will work, price too high, no sales. Black
>beauty was sold abs marketed for $20k gram.
>
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>On Feb 19, 2013, at 1:07 PM, Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com>
>wrote:
>
>> I am not calling it boring.  I think it is very exciting but not
>$500.00 gram exciting.  The event itself is astonishing but at $500.00
>a gram, it is more than 10 times higher than Pultusk!  In my opinion,
>Anybody asking $20,000.00 a gram for a Martian meteorite these days is
>being plan greedy.
>> 
>> Adam
>> 
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>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Michael Farmer <mike at meteoriteguy.com>
>> To: Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com>
>> Cc: Adam <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 11:57 AM
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only
>pick one)
>> 
>> Adam, those who bought black beauty for $20,000 gram will lose 90%.
>> I expect this Russia fall to be couple bucks a gram for larger
>material. 
>> Anyone paying $50+ gram for this will be an idiot just like those
>buying fakes on eBay. Please don't stoop to calling this a boring
>ordinary meteorite, it isn't!
>> Call it anything you want, a nuclear-bomb blast magnitude common
>chondrite on the news 24/7 for last 5 days, "Gimme Gimme gimme"!
>> Michael Farmer
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Feb 19, 2013, at 12:49 PM, Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com>
>wrote:
>> 
>>> This is what makes meteorite collecting interesting.  Some prefer
>falls and some prefer rare types.  I am saying that historically, there
>is way more bang for the buck in a planetary piece than a fall unless
>it is a planetary fall.  The last Martian fall maintains around 40% of
>the initial offering price whereas the last several chondrite falls
>only maintains about 10-20% of their initial offer price.  For the most
>part, unless some dealer becomes desperate and charges way too much on
>his credit card, Planetary finds have the best record for maintaining
>price in the long run.
>>> 
>>> With over a dozen falls a year, Ordinary Chondrite falls are
>literately a dime a dozen these days, excuse the pun.  You can purchase
>very old witnessed falls at a bargain by comparison to more recent
>falls with asking prices much higher.  I would prefer very old falls
>for investment purposes. 
>>> 
>>> I like planetary pieces above all else and to me, they will always
>be king.
>>> 
>>> Adam
>>> 
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>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Michael Farmer <mike at meteoriteguy.com>
>>> To: Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com> 
>>> Cc: Adam <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 10:55 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only
>pick one)
>>> 
>>> Sorry Adam, but this fall has been seen in every country and every
>tv in the world. I would not expect it to be expensive because for sure
>thousands of stones will be recovered. The price on black beauty is
>insane, already dropping and I have Moroccans begging me to buy it.
>This Russian fall has excited the world, my sales are surging because
>of interest. 
>>> I will take a bet with you, this Russian meteorite will fill every
>collection in the world and Black beauty will be owned by very few
>people.
>>> I know where I am going to put my money.
>>> 
>>> Michael Farmer
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>> On Feb 19, 2013, at 11:13 AM, Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com>
>wrote:
>>> 
>>>> In my opinion, the Martian Breccia is far more important than an
>Ordinary Chondrite and will hold its value better than a witnessed fall
>with thousands of pieces on the market..  A witnessed fall may very
>well lose 90% of its value within a month or two once its coolness
>factor wears off.  The real story is in the event and once the limited
>amount of collectors get their hands on some, the demand drops off
>quickly.  On the other hand, the way overpriced Martian meteorite will
>be appreciated much longer unless pairings and competition drag the
>price down.
>>>> 
>>>> I always wait at least six months before investing in either one so
>that I am am not paying 4 to 10 times its settled value.
>>>> 
>>>> Adam
>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: Matt Morgan <mail at mhmeteorites.com>
>>>> To: Mark Ford <mark.ford at southernscientific.co.uk>;
>"Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com"
><Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>>>> Cc: 
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 8:49 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only
>pick one)
>>>> 
>>>> I'll take the Martian if we are playing that game.
>>>> 
>>>> Mark Ford <mark.ford at southernscientific.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Aw, invoking shrodinger's cat is cheating!  :)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ok, in this universe, i'll take the Russian, in the other one the
>>>>> Martian..
>>>>> 
>>>>> lol
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
>>>>> [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of
>Mendy
>>>>> Ouzillou
>>>>> Sent: 19 February 2013 15:57
>>>>> To: Michael Farmer; Matt Morgan
>>>>> Cc: Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only
>pick
>>>>> one)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Agreed, they are both cool.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So if Schrodinger's cat can be dead and alive at the same time, I
>would
>>>>> ignore the rules and get both. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mendy Ouzillou
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>> From: Michael Farmer <mike at meteoriteguy.com>
>>>>>> To: Matt Morgan <mail at mhmeteorites.com>
>>>>>> Cc: "Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com" 
>>>>>> <Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 7:35 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can
>only
>>>>> pick
>>>>>> one)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> But one problem, the Russian fall is likely going to be
>relatively
>>>>> cheap, I am sure hundreds of kilos will be found and the price
>will
>>>>> likely be low. For $500 people will be able to buy one or many
>stones.
>>>>> $500 in black beauty gets you a speck hardly identifiable as a
>>>>> meteorite.
>>>>>> Both are very interesting meteorites, scientifically the Mars is
>more
>>>>> interesting but dynamically the Russian fall is history-book
>material.
>>>>>> No comparison in my opinion:)
>>>>>> I'll be in Russia very soon, so get your pennies counted:)
>Michael 
>>>>>> Farmer
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Feb 19, 2013, at 8:27 AM, Matt Morgan <mail at mhmeteorites.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Why discriminate? Both are history-making meteorites in their
>own
>>>>> rights. Black Beauty is not just another Mars rock and the Russian
>fall
>>>>> is far from ordinary. We should see this as an opportunity (if
>there is
>>>>> the opportunity to own the Russian fall) and them both to our
>>>>> collections. 
>>>>>>> Matt
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Mark Ford <mark.ford at southernscientific.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Given there is probably more tkw of black beauty than chebarkul
>at 
>>>>>>>> the moment -  give me 'the Russian blonde'!  :)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
>>>>>>>> [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf
>Of 
>>>>>>>> Don Merchant
>>>>>>>> Sent: 19 February 2013 13:14
>>>>>>>> To: Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>>>>>>>> Cc: Don Merchant
>>>>>>>> Subject: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only
>pick
>>>>>>>> one)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi List. What an exciting week in the world of
>>>>> meteorites/asteroids! 
>>>>>>>> So here goes...If you had only the choice of picking one small 
>>>>>>>> fragment for your collection what would it be. Here are the
>>>>> choices:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Black Beauty Martian meteorite NWA 7034 or A fragment of the
>recent
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> and most historic event of the Russian meteorite in Chebarkul.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Lets just say for ships and giggles that if you pick one you
>can 
>>>>>>>> never have the other!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sincerely
>>>>>>>> Don Merchant
>>>>>>>> Founder-Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders 
>>>>>>>> www.ctreasurescwonders.com IMCA #0960
>>>>>>>> 
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