[meteorite-list] EBAY SCAM ALERT - balogne_t - Attn: DEALERS BLOCK HIM NOW

[Don Merchant]

Great info Chris. As you stated tracking ends when it reaches Customs. My 
question to all this is, at which point does the Seller not become 
responsible any more. Since it can be proved that tracking made it to at 
least Customs, then this means the package was at one point officially in 
the the hands of say USPS, FedEx, UPS, ect. which are businesses who get 
paid by us, for a service they offer, and that service is delivery. That 
responsibility should become the Delivery Service Provider once money is 
exchanged between parties. ALWAYS send delivery confirmation here in the 
U.S. It's cheap to send with delivery confirmation and now you have proof it 
was delivered! Even if the Provider delivered the "meteorite" to the wrong 
address, is that not the fault of the Provider!? Is it fair that a Seller be 
responsible at that point?
Now if sending from U.S. to International....you ALWAYS have to fill out a 
Customs Declaration. You hold onto the part that the Provider stamps and 
gives back to you. That is proof you paid a Provider for a service they 
offer, and the package is now in their hands. So at that point the issue of 
lost, stolen, or never delivered, can be proven by either Delivery 
confirmation and or via the Customs Declaration Label. You would think eBay 
would have this figured out and would just tell the Buyer to wait another 7 
days before acting and returning money to the Buyer.
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Now that we know the Provider is responsible, What are the obligations of a 
Seller to a Buyer, when clearly the proof shows that the Provider was paid, 
but did not do their job. I have been fortunate to not have an issue with 
proving that I sent out the package via a Provider and or an eBay Buyer 
trying to scam me. Can any Sellers ping in on how far to accept 
responsibilty as a Seller and to what measures you would take to the Buyer.

Sincerely
Don Merchant
Founder-Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders
www.ctreasurescwonders.com
IMCA #0960

 ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris Spratt" <cspratt at islandnet.com>
To: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] EBAY SCAM ALERT - balogne_t - Attn: DEALERS 
BLOCK HIM NOW


> Hi Listers:
>
> Anne is right - mail to Canada can take up to 2 weeks to arrive. That is 
> 14-17 Working Days (don't count weekends or holidays).
> Padded envelopes can be a bit quicker - boxes can take longer as Canada 
> Customs can dip their grabby fingers into those.
> I usually make a query to the seller after about 18-21 working days have 
> passed since the item was mailed by the seller. Best to
> tell customers when package was actually mailed. Tracking numbers do help, 
> but tracking by USPS stops, after the package reaches
> the Canadian Border Boonies and fades/merges into our Postal System.
>
> Happy New Years to all,
>
> Chris. Spratt
> Victoria, BC
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