[Scons-dev] Looking for help mapping Windows pdb semantics to SCons

Bill Deegan bill at baddogconsulting.com
Fri May 24 19:51:39 EDT 2019


Andrew & Adam,

Unless the discussion is proprietary, perhaps there would be value in
continuing it on list?
That would make it easier for others to follow the development process and
also in the future look back and understand some of the why?

-Bill

On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 3:45 PM Andrew C. Morrow <andrew.c.morrow at gmail.com>
wrote:

>
> Hi Adam -
>
> I'm working in this same area (caching and debug info handling) for the
> SCons based MongoDB build system, right now.
>
> Overall, I am trying to move to a model on Windows that is more like using
> -gsplit-dwarf with the GNU tools, where every object file gets a
> (cacheable) .pdb, and then we link with /DEBUG:fastlink, and defer the
> final per library/executable PDB to a post link step by using mspdbcmf.
> This is similar to using dwp to package up the .dwo files.
>
> You can see some of my very much work-in-progress state here:
> https://github.com/acmorrow/mongo/blob/SERVER-33661/site_scons/site_tools/separate_debug.py
>
> Unfortunately, I've encountered one showstopper issue for us:
> https://developercommunity.visualstudio.com/content/problem/573023/absolute-paths-for-associated-pdb-files-are-record.html,
> and I'm waiting to hear back on it.
>
> The next steps in my current approach would be to move the actions that
> produce the finalized .dwp, .dSYM, or .pdb file into separate builders,
> rather than adding them as actions to the .Program and .SharedLibrary
> builders. That would allow the build tasks to finalize the debug
> information to be executed separately, or not at all for developer builds
> where keeping the debug info in separated per-object files is sufficient.
>
> If you are interested, I'd be happy to collaborate (off-list initially?)
> to discuss some of the issues we have encountered and find a way to avoid
> duplication of effort. Improving the debug info handling situation is
> something I'm keenly interested in, as it is a major bottleneck in our
> build performance.
>
> Thanks,
> Andrew
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 3:45 PM Tomasz Gajewski <tomga at wp.pl> wrote:
>
>>
>> Adam Gross via Scons-dev <scons-dev at scons.org> writes:
>>
>> > I am investigating better supporting caching with SCons at VMware and
>> > am trying to see if I can teach SCons about pdb files.
>>
>> Is there any problem for your use cases in using /Z7 option for
>> compilation? That tells the compiler to embed debug data in .obj file
>> like on linux. Then during linking pdb's are created. It works at least
>> for shared libraries and executables.
>>
>> Regards
>> Tomasz Gajewski
>>
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