[meteorite-list] Franconia AREA (was, Re: ...terminology...)

[Michael Farmer]

I don't think there was ever any glacier activity there:)

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On Apr 30, 2013, at 7:03 AM, Anne Black <impactika at aol.com> wrote:

> Jim wrote:
> 
> Any Phd's out there want to explain the statistics of so many falls in
> such a small area???  What...a .01% chance!
> 
> OR could they have been pushed there and accumulated by the latest glaciations(s)??????
> 
> 
> Anne M. Black
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> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Wooddell <jimwooddell at gmail.com>
> To: Erik Fisler <phxerik at yahoo.com>
> Cc: Meteorite List <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:40 pm
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Franconia AREA (was, Re: ...terminology...)
> 
> 
> Hi Erik and all!
> 
> What mapped strewnfield?  The decade old one that was used for the
> study or a current one that extended the Franconia Area strewn field
> about 4 miles that was not used?
> 
> Any Phd's out there want to explain the statistics of so many falls in
> such a small area???  What...a .01% chance!
> 
> Jim
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 4:11 PM, Erik Fisler <phxerik at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> You mean all those H3-5's are paired?!? Lord.
>> 
>> I think people forget that there are LL's, L's and H's found from the 
> Gold
> Basin fall. To say that a mass from a parent body large enough to have a strewn
> field of this size and TKW should be one homogeneous petro.-type is silly.
>> This business of trying to classify every stone as a different fall 
> for what
> ever selfish or perverse reason along with having a personal attachment to the
> outcome of the over all conclusion is ridiculous and completely against the
> scientific method.
>> 
>> How many of those YDCA or what ever H3-5's have been found outside 
> the mapped
> strewn field? And how far?
>> 
>> -Erik Fisler
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Apr 26, 2013, at 11:02 PM, Robert Verish <bolidechaser at yahoo.com> 
> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi All,
>>> Just read another article in the 2013 March edition of M&PS,
>>> "Stones from Mohave County, Arizona:
>>> Multiple falls in the 'Franconia strewn field' "
>>> by Melinda Hutson, et al.
>>> 
>>> There is much to digest from this 5-author paper that is 25 pages 
> long.
>>> What with 14 stones being studied and 7 pairings to be described, 
> there is a
> lot to chew on.
>>> 
>>> Here's something to chew on.  According to this paper, "Much 
> unclassified
> material that has been distributed [sold] as 'Franconia' may not be from the
> Franconia fall".  The authors make a case that more than half of the finds made
> in the "Franconia area" are paired to the Buck Mountain Wash fall.
>>> 
>>> It has taken 10 years, but these findings show that I was justified 
> in my
> belly-aching about all of the self-pairing that was occurring back then.   It
> was on this very List that I was strongly criticized for this, and many dealers
> that thought they knew better defended their God-given right to name their
> stones after the Franconia meteorite that I got classified.  A closer look at
> the MetBull images for Franconia shows that very few of them are from the
> Franconia fall. I offer no apologies for taking great satisfaction in the fact
> that I am now vindicated.
>>> 
>>> The paper goes on to show that every Sacramento Wash numbered 
> meteorite is
> paired to Buck Mountain Wash, which effectively has resulted in the demise of
> the SaW DCA and hastened the formation of the Yucca DCA.
>>> 
>>> As I said, if you read this paper, there's a lot more to digest.
>>> It's late and I'm thinking about chewing on an antacid pill.
>>> 
>>> -- Bob V.
>>> 
>>> --- On Thu, 4/25/13, Jim Wooddell <jimwooddell at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> From: Jim Wooddell <jimwooddell at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - IMB or SMB? The 
> nomenclature of
> Melts.
>>>> To: "Meteorite List" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>>>> Date: Thursday, April 25, 2013, 5:29 PM
>>>> Hi All!
>>>> Just a point of information.  I just read Dr. Rubin's paper,
>>>> "Multiple melting in a four-layered barred-olivine chondrule with
>>>> compositionally heterogeneous glass from LL3.0 Semarkona"
>>>> Whew!  That's a title for a paper!
>>>> While we are on the subject of melts, I thought I'd point-out
>>>> this paper.
>>>> Enjoyed reading it the first time....actually understood some
>>>> of it and will read it once again after thinking about it
>>>> for a while.
>>>> You folks might enjoy reading it when you get a chance!
>>>> Thanks Alan!!
>>>> 
>>>> Jim Wooddell
>>> ++++++++++++++
>>> 
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