[meteorite-list] Franconia AREA (was, Re: ...terminology...)

[Anne Black]

Jim wrote:

Any Phd's out there want to explain the statistics of so many falls in
such a small area???  What...a .01% chance!

OR could they have been pushed there and accumulated by the latest 
glaciations(s)??????


Anne M. Black
www.IMPACTIKA.com
IMPACTIKA at aol.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Wooddell <jimwooddell at gmail.com>
To: Erik Fisler <phxerik at yahoo.com>
Cc: Meteorite List <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Mon, Apr 29, 2013 1:40 pm
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Franconia AREA (was, Re: 
...terminology...)


Hi Erik and all!

What mapped strewnfield?  The decade old one that was used for the
study or a current one that extended the Franconia Area strewn field
about 4 miles that was not used?

Any Phd's out there want to explain the statistics of so many falls in
such a small area???  What...a .01% chance!

Jim




On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 4:11 PM, Erik Fisler <phxerik at yahoo.com> wrote:
> You mean all those H3-5's are paired?!? Lord.
>
> I think people forget that there are LL's, L's and H's found from the 
Gold
Basin fall. To say that a mass from a parent body large enough to have 
a strewn
field of this size and TKW should be one homogeneous petro.-type is 
silly.
> This business of trying to classify every stone as a different fall 
for what
ever selfish or perverse reason along with having a personal attachment 
to the
outcome of the over all conclusion is ridiculous and completely against 
the
scientific method.
>
> How many of those YDCA or what ever H3-5's have been found outside 
the mapped
strewn field? And how far?
>
> -Erik Fisler
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 26, 2013, at 11:02 PM, Robert Verish <bolidechaser at yahoo.com> 
wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>> Just read another article in the 2013 March edition of M&PS,
>> "Stones from Mohave County, Arizona:
>> Multiple falls in the 'Franconia strewn field' "
>> by Melinda Hutson, et al.
>>
>> There is much to digest from this 5-author paper that is 25 pages 
long.
>> What with 14 stones being studied and 7 pairings to be described, 
there is a
lot to chew on.
>>
>> Here's something to chew on.  According to this paper, "Much 
unclassified
material that has been distributed [sold] as 'Franconia' may not be 
from the
Franconia fall".  The authors make a case that more than half of the 
finds made
in the "Franconia area" are paired to the Buck Mountain Wash fall.
>>
>> It has taken 10 years, but these findings show that I was justified 
in my
belly-aching about all of the self-pairing that was occurring back 
then.   It
was on this very List that I was strongly criticized for this, and many 
dealers
that thought they knew better defended their God-given right to name 
their
stones after the Franconia meteorite that I got classified.  A closer 
look at
the MetBull images for Franconia shows that very few of them are from 
the
Franconia fall. I offer no apologies for taking great satisfaction in 
the fact
that I am now vindicated.
>>
>> The paper goes on to show that every Sacramento Wash numbered 
meteorite is
paired to Buck Mountain Wash, which effectively has resulted in the 
demise of
the SaW DCA and hastened the formation of the Yucca DCA.
>>
>> As I said, if you read this paper, there's a lot more to digest.
>> It's late and I'm thinking about chewing on an antacid pill.
>>
>> -- Bob V.
>>
>> --- On Thu, 4/25/13, Jim Wooddell <jimwooddell at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> From: Jim Wooddell <jimwooddell at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - IMB or SMB? The 
nomenclature of
Melts.
>>> To: "Meteorite List" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>>> Date: Thursday, April 25, 2013, 5:29 PM
>>> Hi All!
>>> Just a point of information.  I just read Dr. Rubin's paper,
>>> "Multiple melting in a four-layered barred-olivine chondrule with
>>> compositionally heterogeneous glass from LL3.0 Semarkona"
>>> Whew!  That's a title for a paper!
>>> While we are on the subject of melts, I thought I'd point-out
>>> this paper.
>>> Enjoyed reading it the first time....actually understood some
>>> of it and will read it once again after thinking about it
>>> for a while.
>>> You folks might enjoy reading it when you get a chance!
>>> Thanks Alan!!
>>>
>>> Jim Wooddell
>> ++++++++++++++
>>
>> ______________________________________________
>>
>> Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com
>> Meteorite-list mailing list
>> Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
> ______________________________________________
>
> Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com
> Meteorite-list mailing list
> Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list



--
Jim Wooddell
jimwooddell at gmail.com
928-247-2675
______________________________________________

Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com
Meteorite-list mailing list
Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list