[meteorite-list] Scam Artist - Joel Samson - FakeLunar Meteorites
Count Deiro
countdeiro at earthlink.net
Thu May 12 13:53:29 EDT 2011
Hello List,
I've seen these "black ball" lists backfire with the cost of just answering the accused's Civil Complaint ruining the accusing association financially. Also, there are real elements of civil liability that might attach themselves to individual members. RUN...DON'T WALK...AWAY FROM THIS IDEA
Best to all,
Count Deiro
IMCA 3536
-----Original Message-----
>From: LITIG8NSHARK at aol.com
>Sent: May 12, 2011 10:13 AM
>To: mikestang at gmail.com, meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Scam Artist - Joel Samson - FakeLunar Meteorites
>
>Good day Folks,
>
>I would echo Michael in SO-CAL's thoughts. To establish such a list could
>result in a rather expensive Defamation suit for the publisher(s) of such
>a list.
>
>Best Regards,
>
>Paul Martyn,
>Savannah GA
>
>In a message dated 5/12/2011 1:06:24 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>mikestang at gmail.com writes:
>List,
>
>So the very first post speaking to putting together a black list
>incorrectly accuses someone of being a fraud? Seems to me like trying
>to compile such a list would end up causing way more grief than it
>would solve.
>
>Regards,
>Michael in so. Cal.
>
>On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 8:23 AM, Robert Woolard
><meteoritefinder at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Hello All,
>>
>> I wholeheartedly agree with Frank and Dave. There has to be a huge
>misunderstanding/mistake made somewhere along the way in listing Todd Parker
>as a scammer. From the all-too-little time that I have had the pleasure of
>being in Todd's company, I can most definitely say that he is an absolutely
>GREAT person, one of the nicest most friendly guys you could ever hope to
>meet! The list of attributes that Dave listed in the previous email
>describes Todd perfectly.
>>
>> Al, I firmly believe that if if you will look back over whatever info
>you based this on, you will find it was not him that you were thinking
>about.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Robert Woolard
>>
>>
>> --- On Thu, 5/12/11, Frank Cressy <fcressy at prodigy.net> wrote:
>>
>>> From: Frank Cressy <fcressy at prodigy.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Scam Artist - Joel Samson - FakeLunar
>Meteorites
>>> To: dave at fallingrocks.com
>>> Cc: "meteoritelist" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>>> Date: Thursday, May 12, 2011, 10:01 AM
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> Dave Gheesling can't post to the list at the moment, but
>>> given the seriousness
>>> of the accusation made against Todd Parker, he asked that I
>>> post this on his
>>> behalf:
>>>
>>> His message follows:
>>>
>>> Hello List,
>>> While I haven't seen where Todd Parker's name was mentioned
>>> as a "possible
>>> scammer" other than in Al Mitterling's recent post (I
>>> haven't been closely
>>> following the thread), TODD PARKER MOST ASSUREDLY IS NOT
>>> A SCAMMER OR ANYTHING
>>> OF THE SORT. To the contrary, Todd is probably one of the
>>> finest people I've
>>> had the pleasure of knowing -- inside or outside of the
>>> meteorite community.
>>> Presumably this mention has something to do with the recent
>>> Mifflin thread, but
>>> Todd's name shouldn't be associated with anything other
>>> than integrity -- he is
>>> a class act, to be sure.
>>> All the best,
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>> >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Scam Artist - Joel Samson
>>> - FakeLunar
>>> >Meteorites
>>> >From: Frank Cressy <fcressy at prodigy.net>
>>> >Date: Thu, May 12, 2011 10:45 am
>>> >To: al mitt <almitt at kconline.com>,
>>> Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>>> >Cc: Chris Spratt <cspratt at islandnet.com>
>>> >
>>> >Hi Al,
>>> >
>>> >You made a mistake listing Todd Parker as a scammer.
>>> He was mentioned as
>>> >selling Whetstone Mountains that were definitely real.
>>> >
>>> >Frank
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >----- Original Message ----
>>> >From: al mitt <almitt at kconline.com>
>>> >To: Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>>> >Cc: Chris Spratt <cspratt at islandnet.com>
>>> >Sent: Thu, May 12, 2011 5:57:42 AM
>>> >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Scam Artist - Joel Samson
>>> - FakeLunar Meteorites
>>> >
>>> >Hi Gary, Greg H., Chris and all,
>>> >
>>> >Two names have come up recently as scammers. Joel
>>> Samson and Todd Parker. We
>>> >also know of another guy from the Chicago area that is
>>> a fraud. What I would
>>> >like to see is a list of people and companies that are
>>> known to be selling
>>> >fakes, mis-representing material and so forth. I am not
>>> talking about
>>> >someone who has made a mistake.
>>> >
>>> >In order to qualify, the person or company in question
>>> would have to have
>>> >evidence that would support their efforts to be
>>> purposely doing something
>>> >wrong. I wouldn't want a witch hunt or dealers who
>>> don't like other dealers,
>>> >trying to put people on this list. I know this is
>>> probably going to open a
>>> >can of worms BUT it is important to know suspect con
>>> artists, frauds and
>>> >people and companies who are just not getting the fact
>>> we don't like our
>>> >collections messed up.
>>> >
>>> >Does a list already exist? If not it sure would be nice
>>> to have one that
>>> >could be shared with the collecting community from time
>>> to time. Other input
>>> >appreciated.
>>> >
>>> >--AL Mitterling
>>> >
>>> >----- Original Message -----
>>> >From: "Gary Fujihara" <fujmon at mac.com>
>>> >To: "Chris Spratt" <cspratt at islandnet.com>
>>> >Cc: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>>> >Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 3:41 PM
>>> >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Scam Artist - Joel Samson
>>> - FakeLunar
>>> >Meteorites
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> I've asked the administrator of the Meteorites
>>> group on Facebook to remove
>>> >> this person from the group. Hopefully this will
>>> put a damper on his
>>> >> shenanigans, but probably nothing short of legal
>>> action will make him
>>> >> cease and desist.
>>> >>
>>> >> gary
>>> >>
>>> >> On May 11, 2011, at 8:50 AM, Chris Spratt wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> Never was my friend on Facebook yet he managed
>>> to post things in a group
>>> >>> I belong to. Is there a way to unfriend
>>> someone from a group?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Chris Spratt
>>> >>> (Via my iPhone)
>>> >>>
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