[meteorite-list] Martian Meteorites

[Greg Hupe]

Hello Martin and List,

As always Martin, you are a true gentleman and a scholar! I appreciate  
how you get to the point and then go on to explain situations in a  
thorough manner, Thank You! In my case, I tend to be to the point in a  
more blunt manner sometimes, especially if I am tapping on an iPhone.

As for GregC and his denial of directing his comments at Jim and I, we  
on this List are not stupid, just another upsetting insult. I might be  
getting older, slower, blinder, less patient, but sure as heck not  
getting dumber! To say he didn't even read my joke email is a poor  
toss out there. As for List archives, they are a fun read aren't they?  
You will see a couple squabbles over the years, but you will also see  
infinately more new meteorites being announced and discussed by the  
very same folks who compete AND work together. Good, healthy  
competition even with occasion squabbles is a good thing!!

Keep up the excellent work, Martin and Stefan! The world is a better  
place because of contributions by you and several others, and a lot  
better explained! ;-)

Best Regards,
Greg Hupe

On Dec 3, 2010, at 9:34 AM, "Martin Altmann" <altmann at meteorite-martin.de 
 > wrote:

> Hi there,
>
> Well Phil, we simply don't know it - aaand that's why we have to  
> look for
> it!
>
> I see also a nice side-effect in the press conference by NASA - some
> advertizing, always necessary to get the budgets passed. Remember -  
> the
> announcement of the supposed fossil remnants in ALH84001, even by  
> president
> Clinton - when did it take place?  And when started the great Martian
> renaissance with all these incredible successful orbiters and rovers?
> And if you keep in mind, that sample-return-mission projected, if it  
> will be
> realized, will be after the ISS and the space shuttle missions, the  
> most
> expensive mission, the most costly planetary space-probe ever.
> Hopefully it will be done.  And until then, we have to take potluck  
> with the
> Martian meteorites we have already.
>
> hi Greg & Greg,
>
> could you please reconcile your differences off-list?
>
> Greg H. - I guess Greg C. simply didn't get the joke, because he  
> isn't aware
> of the funny story of Haag, Zagami and ALH84001.
>
> And Greg C.
> I know that you sometimes support the notion, that we're all in  
> meteorites
> only for the money.
>
> Though the meteorite prices are not endangered by new scientific  
> recoveries.
> Much more they are endangered, because still some meteoricists and  
> some
> clerks haven't recognized yet the direct correlation of find
> rates/availability of meteorites and the legal situation in the  
> countries,
> they were and shall be found.
> You can observe already now the step-back and the regress in newly  
> found
> material due to always new restrictions. Check the bulletins, what  
> for a
> decline we have the very last 3 years in newly recovered unpaired
> planetaries.
> And regarding especially the Martians, I'm not sure how long you're in
> meteorites, but they already doubled, tripled, quadrupled in price  
> during
> the last 4 years, because of that.
>