[meteorite-list] Dr Jambons email to list on pairings

[Barry Hughes]

I'm not a seller..so I'm outta hear.  I don't belong fighting over
money...I buy.......and I buy a lot.  I have favorite sellers and I
will buy until I can't afford it and I will let you guys that email
me...wishing that the IMCA was what it should be.. carry this on.. I
never wanted to call someone a bitch, and I apologize for that.  G'day

On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 10:08 PM,  <cdtucson at cox.net> wrote:
> By request, here is Dr. Jambon's email to the list.
>
>> > > >  Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 16:47:14 +0200
>> > > > To:  meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>> > > > From: Zelimir Gabelica  <Zelimir.Gabelica at uha.fr>
>> > > > Subject: [meteorite-list] PAIRINGS TO  NWA 5400
>> > > >
>> > > > Dear List,
>> > > >
>> > > > I just received a  message from Albert Jambon
>> > > > regarding the recently debated issue of  NWA 5400 and its possible
>> > > pairings.
>> > > > Albert contacted me (as Ensishim  organizer) after
>> > > > several unfruitful attempts and asked me to send
>> > > > this message (below) to the list.
>> > > >
>> > > > I know that  forwarding someone else's message
>> > > > does not really meet the meteorite  list policy
>> > > > but thought that Albert, who was often cited
>> > > >  and/or called in this effervescent discussion,
>> > > > should have the right  of answering the concerned
>> > > > protagonists and present his statement  about an
>> > > > issue (NWA 4500 pairings) wherein he has been fully  involved.
>> > > > I hope the list moderator would allow this post to  go.
>> > > >
>> > > > Zelimir
>> > > > ------------------------------
>> > > >
>> > > > Now it's enough.
>> > > >
>> > > > I have been out of my office for  fieldwork with
>> > > > my students and a friend of mine draw my attention to  this mess.
>> > > > Now I am back.
>> > > >
>> > > > Original scientific  information does not have to
>> > > > go to the list first but rather to The  Nom. Com. and scientific
>> > > publications.
>> > > > Description of NWA 5363 has  been submitted since a long time but not yet
>> > > voted.
>> > > > However, the  situation is such that it appears
>> > > > better to release some  information.
>> > > > NWA 5400 is undoubtedly paired with NWA 5363!
>> > > >
>> > > > I received a sample from Mbarek Ait el Caid in February 2008.
>> > > >  I received a second sample from another stone in
>> > > > May of the same  year, again from Mbarek.
>> > > > I had additional samples from American  collectors as well.
>> > > >
>> > > > Copies of my private mails that were  posted on
>> > > > this list are authentic (but not the translation).
>> > > >
>> > > > NWA 5363 was submitted with a TKW of 2455g.
>> > > > The second stone  has a TKW of 5530 g.
>> > > > As for the others I just don't know.
>> > > >
>> > > > If you want more scientific information, go to the Met. Bull.  database.
>> > > >
>> > > > When you know nothing just keep silent.
>> > > >
>> > > > And now according to Greg's writing :
>> > > > "I welcome any pairings  to NWA 5400, the
>> > > > Earth-Related Meteorite! The more the better for all  of us."
>> > > >
>> > > > I have been insulted.
>> > > > My Moroccan partners  have been insulted too.
>> > > > We all wait for apology.
>> > > >
>> > > >  Albert Jambon
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > Thanks Carl
>> > Carl
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Carl or Debbie Esparza
>> > Meteoritemax
>> >
>> >
>> > ---- kai ke <torontokai at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > Hi Tom,
>> > >
>> > > I am confused by your post. You memtioned that 5363 is 5400 paired.
>> > > But NWA5400 is a brachnite like but not a brachnite due to its
>> > > terrestial osotope. It is a terrestial meteorite or ungrouped. To be a
>> > > brachnite and nwa5400 paired is a contradiction to me. Anyway I cannot
>> > > find the  5363 on meteotitical bulletin.
>> > >
>> > > Just post my thinking for your consideration.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks,
>> > >
>> > > Kai
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