[meteorite-list] Stefan's New Find

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Fri Jan 23 04:53:45 EST 2009


Hi Jeff, Stefan & All,

I know that some scientists even think that oxidized CVs and CKs should be 
considered as one single group of meteorites, and pour Tanezrouft 057 that 
was classified C4 is an example as some parts of appear to be CV and some 
other ones CK, according to the analyses that have been processed. TNZ 057 
is still under study and we hope that something will come out one of these 
days but there was already an abstract written by Dr Bertrand Devouard 
(UBP - Clermont-Ferrand - France) that you can find on our website at: 
http://info.meteoriteshow.free.fr/Archives-Meteoriteshow/angl/Tnz057/abstract-Tan057-B.Devouard.pdf.

But anyway and even if Stefan's meteorite is obviously different from TNZ 
057, i believe that there is a possibility that part of it can be CV and the 
other part CK (but both of them can be CV as well...). The best is to have 
it analyzed.

Kind regards

Frederic Beroud
http://www.meteoriteshow.com
IMCA #2491

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeff Kuyken" <info at meteorites.com.au>
To: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 6:33 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Stefan's New Find


> Hi Stefan and all,
>
> I was thinking about this last night and was wondering if anyone knows of 
> a Carbonaceous chondrite that has ever been classified as a combination? 
> (i.e. CV/CK or CB/CH etc.)
>
> Or maybe a paper written on the topic?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Stefan Ralew" <stefan at meteoriten.com>
> To: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 1:27 AM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Stefan's New Find
>
>
>> Hello Together,
>>
>> many thanks for the all the interesting answers to my email. Yes, it 
>> could be a CK/CV - if I look at Marcins photos of his NWA 4838, the 
>> pieces are actually very similar, although certainly not the same 
>> meteorite. Here are the two photos side by side:
>> http://www.chladnis-heirs.com/two-cc.jpg
>>
>> The dark lithology could be a melted version of the light-grey lithology. 
>> But it is somewhat strange that the dark lithology has apparent more free 
>> iron metal than the light-grey area. I will of course keep the list 
>> informed about the final classification. The stone is currently under 
>> examination by Dr. Ansgar Greshake. Whatever it is, it is simply a 
>> strange thing, and a great surprise indeed.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>> Stefan
>>
>>
>> www.chladnis-heirs.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: <bernd.pauli at paulinet.de>
>> To: <Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 10:59 PM
>> Subject: [english 90%] [meteorite-list] Stefan's New Find
>>
>>
>>> Hello Fred, Stefan and List,
>>>
>>> "The darker side looks like a CV3, but the fair grey one?"
>>>
>>> The uncut main mass: http://www.chladnis-heirs.com/carb-ungesch.jpg
>>> The cut surface: http://www.chladnis-heirs.com/carb.jpg
>>>
>>> Ever since Stefan first showed me this unique specimen in November 2008,
>>> I've been wondering and brooding what this might be. My very first idea 
>>> was
>>> that this might be a CK-like chondrite, then I thought it might also be 
>>> some
>>> kind of E-chondrite and from there, it was just another (hypothetical) 
>>> hop
>>> to the assumption that this could be a Kakangari-like chondrite (???)
>>>
>>> What do you think?
>>>
>>> Bernd
>>>
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