[meteorite-list] AL HAGGOUNIA 001 ("NOT" AUBRITE)

[Greg Hupe]

Dear Frederic, Matteo and List Members,

"Al Haggounia 001"(NWA 4420), NWA 2828 and the other Fossil EL3's are NOT, I 
repeat, NOT aubrites. I wish they were, I have many, many kilos of NWA 2828. 
At first when just the type sample was tested, it came back as an aubrite, 
no chondrules were found. After cutting more of the NWA 2828 material I had, 
I began to find these funny round things and I thought, "Oh no, these are 
chondrules, this can not be an aubrite". I then sent more sample material in 
to have tested and sure enough, they WERE chondrules. Unfortunately I had 
not cut the material for sale until the classification and abstract were 
approved. After the chondrules were found and confirmed by several US 
scientists, a revised classification and abstract were submitted. The 
abstract was approved, see here: 
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2006AGUFM.P51E1247K but the NWA 2828 
classification was not changed by the Meteoritical Society in the bulletin 
(not sure why this is, any one out there who can address this?).

The classifying scientist who studied NWA 4420 "Al Haggounia", Dr. Jambon, 
refused scientific data supporting the EL3 classification from the US 
scientists and classified the sample he had as an aubrite. This material IS 
THE SAME AS NWA 2828, the now infamous EL3 Fossil (Paleo) meteorite! I do 
not know if "Al Haggnounia" is trying to be wished into being an aubrite, 
but IT IS NOT!!! Those who have sent Dr. Jambon sample material need to send 
him and other scientists more samples that show the true makeup of this 
meteorite. In other words, send samples with those funny round things so the 
classification can be made correctly. When new data and evidence is 
presented, it is up to the dealers AND the scientists to do the right thing.

To error is OK as long as a correction is made as in the case of NWA 2828, 
hence the title of the revised abstract, "EL3 Chondrite (not Aubrite) 
Northwest Africa 2828: An Unusual Paleo-meteorite Occurring as Cobbles in a 
Terrestrial Conglomerate". See here: 
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2006AGUFM.P51E1247K

I wish NWA 2828 was an aubrite, but an EL3 Fossil meteorite is pretty cool 
too. Anyone want an excellent deal on some nice and clean NWA 2828 stones?

Respectfully,
Greg

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "meteoriteshow" <meteoriteshow at free.fr>
To: "Meteorite List Meteoritecentral" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 9:54 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] AD - AL HAGGOUNIA 001 (AUBRITE)


> Dear Listees,
>
> Sorry, the links where cut in my previous post.
> So please just find them (I hope this time uncut) hereunder:
>
> 1/ Al Haggounia 001 / Meteoritical Society:
> http://tin.er.usgs.gov/meteor/metbull.php?sfor=names&categ=Aubrites&mblist=92
>
> 2/ Al Haggounia 001 for sale on Meteoriteshow web site:
> http://meteoriteshow.free.fr/meteoriteshow%20fra/pages%20navigation/pieces_en_vente-fra.htm#NWA4420
>
>
>
> kind regards,
>
> Frederic Beroud
> IMCA #2491
> www.meteoriteshow.com
>
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