[meteorite-list] unclean gao givaway

[Mal Bishop]

My simple question is: where is the moderator, or why is there no 
moderator!  I remember way back, some 4 years and more, when a certain then 
list
member named Joel Warren, I believe, kept showing his rudeness, contempt, 
and unwillingness to get along and obey the house rules he was shown the door.
Also, there was a certain other individual named Michael Casper whom was 
shown the same door.  Looks like that is no longer an option.

Why not a little tighter reign here.  Who's suppose to be pulling in the 
reins a little from time to time?  I don't see anything.
I just wanted to fit in, contribute, and learn, but with all of the 
children on board it is nearly, if not completely, impossible!  I make no 
bones that there are those on this list that are childish, inconsiderate, 
some rude, some just plain dense without a clue.  I'm sick and tired of the 
childish and very silly responses given to responses, and some of the 
ridiculous posts that pop up in the first place.  I don't know why this 
list is so out of control sometimes -- this list definitely proves people 
do love watching a good train wreck. Other forums, and lists I am, or have 
been, a member of are so much more controlled and regulated -- they just 
don't allow or tolerate such crap!

All of this childish, baby, school yard bickering, etc. ...it's like a 
school of sharks or piranha after smelling blood.  I know why I left this 
list 4 years ago, and certainly don't
know why I came back and tried to join in.  I see perfectly that this list 
is for the "hotshots", the "in-crowd" -- sort of like high school was.  I 
know I sound like a whiner, and my skins too thin -- sorry, forgive me, I'm 
the one who has to live with it, but I swear this list really puts a damper 
on the thrill and joy of an otherwise very exciting hobby.

In all fairness, there are those that are well above the fray who cohabit 
this list -- well beyond reproach, but then again, too many on the opposite 
end of the spectrum as well!
I look up with respect to the good natured, well healed listees; however, 
the other sort of breed, plain and simply, are just a drag,

The anonymity of the Internet and the associated forums, and email lists 
have really contributed to the overall lack of decorum, respect, dignity, 
and self control that I dare the vast majority of people would not show if 
communicating face-to-face with one another.  It also seems to me this list 
is a microcosm for the endemic plague that is infested most all of cultured 
and civilized peoples the world over, not just here in the US.

There I have spoke my mind -- let's see who the grown-ups are on the list 
versus the children.

With my respect and dignity in check,
Mal



At 01:40 AM 7/26/2007 +0100, Mark Crawford wrote:
>drtanuki wrote:
>
>>Mark,
>>  Have you bothered to read the post by Bill and Ken Newton of Steve`s 
>> history of posts?
>Yes.  And I searched the archives.  I actually read through the archives 
>before I signed up for the list.
>In fact, I signed up for the list /despite/ the content of the archives 
>(and I ain't just talking about Steve here).  I signed up because I wanted 
>to learn more about meteorites (sorry to drag things down to that level).
>
>>Steve is more than a mere annoyance! I have nothing personal against
>>Steve as a human being, but I certainly do about his List behavior.
>>
>So he's a good human being, but whenever he posts to the list you want to 
>do violence.  There's certainly an issue there.
>
>>  And no, I will not cease to comment
>Good grief - as a Scotsman living in England, I wouldn't dream of 
>challenging your 1st amendment rights, even if you don't reside in the US. 
>Some things are universal :)
>Other things I believe are universal include treating people with 
>different views, backgrounds, beliefs (and personalities) with respect.
>>READ HIS OWN words, and IF you are still in doubt
>>check the list archives.  I am certainly not the only
>>one on this list that enjoys Steve`s great
>>contributions to this list... Steve`s history is
>>below.  Thank you Bill for kindly gleaning the archives; there
>>about another 300+??
>>
>Read your own words, and decide if you're really focusing on the right 
>things.  I'm really, really not being flippant - we've all got families, 
>jobs, mortgages, kids...  if (collectively) you've got time to pore over, 
>collate, precis, and repost "300+" postings from one individual who you 
>have an issue with, are you really telling me you can't think of a better 
>use of your time?
>Sometimes we just need to get outside and smell the flowers.
>
>More in hope than expectation,
>Mark
>
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