[meteorite-list] Handling rust problems after buying Irons

[Matthias Bärmann]

Dear Lukasz Smula,

I'm glad to hear from you  n o w . Thanks for offering your support . I
appreciate this but I propose to discuss the details of what can be done now
off list.

But there is one aspect in your message which needs to be cleared up
publically. You write that you've got only one E-Mail from me, informing you
that the meteorites begin to rust. That means that you assert I wasn't
telling the truth to the list when I mentioned several E-Mails I've sent.
That's a serious reproach and I hope you're aware of this fact.

So below only the last three E-Mails I've sent you this autumn can be found
(Nov 15, Nov 08, Oct 27) - all of them without any answer until now. (In one
E-Mail I mention 3 pieces; meanwhile I know that the forth one which I gave
as a present to a friend in London rusts as well.)

In fact I know that irons can rust. If it happens it's necessary to have a
good communication between the seller and the buyer about this problem.
That's what I unfortunately missed in our relation. Discussing this problem
was and is my main intention.

Best regards,

Matthias Baermann

P.S. You don't know what I've done with the meteorites? Well, I wrote it in
one of my E-mails, but I can repeat it: here: I simply kept them like the
other ca.20 different irons I've in my collection, open in my room, treating
them with Balistol oil from time to time. Never had any serious problem with
them except of the Moraskos.

majbaermann at web.de




----- Original Message ----- 
From: Matthias Bärmann
To: lukasz smula
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 7:43 PM
Subject: Re: Problems with Morasko


Lukasz, that's my last message asking you for an answer. If you still don't
want us to solve this problem together I'll forward a report of my (bad)
experience to the international meteorite list. I'll wait 3 days until Nov.
18th.

Sincerely, Matthias


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Matthias Bärmann
  To: lukasz smula
  Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 10:11 AM
  Subject: Fw: Problems with Morasko


  Lukasz, I hope to get an answer soon from you. Otherwise you'ld force me
to make these problems public.

  Sincerely, Matthias


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Matthias Bärmann
  To: lukasz smula
  Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 12:15 AM
  Subject: Problems with Morasko


  Hello Lukasz,

  a while ago I already let you know that there are some problems with rust
regarding the Morasko pieces I bought from you via Ebay.

  Meanwhile I must say: all three pieces, one individual and two etched
specimen are dramatically rusting! I have many irons in my collection, even
"difficult"
ones. But protecting them regularly with a special oil (Ballistol) I never
had rust-problems like that. I believe that something went wrong with the
preparation. Such problems can happen, but I must confess that I'm not
longer happy with these specimen.

  So I'ld like to propose to give the 3 pieces back to you, for the price
I've paid for them. Probably, after re-preparation, they're more
stable and you can sell them again.

  Please let me know what you think about my proposal.

  Sincerely,

  Matthias




----- Original Message ----- 
From: " metebay " <metebay at tlen.pl>
To: "meteorite-list @ meteoritecentral. com"
<meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 9:45 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Handling rust problems after buying Irons


> Dear Matthias Bärmann
>
> I don't know what you have done with my meteorites, that they started to
> rust so much as you describe it. Till now I have sold more than 150
> specimens of Morasko and never I received a complain. As every collector
> knows, every iron is more or less prone to rusting and it would be good to
> take it into account when purchasing an iron. I have never received an
> e-mail from you with your suggestion about returning money for the
> meteorites I have sold you. You wrote the question only, what should you
> do with the meteorites which are rusting at you. An I have replied this e-
> mail. Also you did not write the truth to the list. I think if I would get
> your e-mail with your request of getting money back I took it into
> account. For to help in your troubles I would suggest you to send me the
> rusted slice and endpiece. I will do my best to renew them, make them
> stable and make you happy. As to the complete specimens, I would suggest
> to apply a rust remover, then rinse them with alcohol, dry and oil with
> Ballistol or an other oil used for protecting guns from rusting.
>
> Regards Łukasz Smuła
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