[meteorite-list] Help !! Para ella un regalo (libro q toque temas d meteoritos o astronomia???)

[MexicoDoug]

Hola amigos, everyone, and anyone, world, please help a friend in need:

I need advice for an important Christmas present:  a book/novel/Roman with a 
meteorite/astronomy/meteors/comets or something similar slant.  Fiction 
would be best, we're even talking popular romance novel authors (where I 
might find a Spanish language edition)...actually those would be great for 
the adventurous woman who has a soft spot in her heart for guys that have 
space rocks in their heads ... Latin American or Spanish books are highly 
desirable, too ...

The problem is it will have to be in Spanish, or if in English, very easy to 
understand, and available for quick shipment from Amazon.com.  My window to 
pick up the book order on time is ending since I need to travel to get mail. 
Kid's books which might be fun to practice English are fine ideas too. 
Classics I might find in Spanish, Spanish language literature would be fine 
... She already has all the H.A. Rey books...other than that....H E L P 
please.... I'm totally lost for thoughts :-(((

Thanks for any ideas!

Best wishes, Doug
(suffering on this one)



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "MexicoDoug" <MexicoDoug at aim.com>
To: "Matthias Bärmann" <majbaermann at web.de>; 
<meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2006 9:44 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Handling rust problems after buying Irons


Hi Matthias,

I am very saddened to hear of the problems you experienced with your Morasko
specimens you bought at auction from that Seller.  The comment about your
Nantan never rusting is odd with Morasko rusting, making this a curiousity -
though I'm sure it is frustrating to no end to see your beautiful meteorites
rusting away.

I just have two comments,

First, did your Morasko have fissures along the crystal bountries as is
common due to high impact shocking in that iron?  This probably could play
havoc if not properly cared for if dunked in tap water especially and not
dried...and not all Morasko are equally fissured.  If it did exhibit this
natural condition, was this illustrated in the photos for you, or is there
evidence it was purposefully occulted?  Then you'd have a case of fraud.

Second, could you kindly share the "obscure treatment" the Seller suggested
with us?  That way when you make your complaint public we can all judge for
ourselves better what is happening and it would be much more effective IMO.
Plus, I'm sure listmembers would love to know of a potentially different
treatment out there being used on that locality - I would!

I wish you good luck with the Seller, any time a meteorite rusts it's not
only a loss for the owner, but for humanity as well.  It would be helpful if
preparation was not used as a competitive advantage of dealers.  This is one
of the aspects of commercialization of meteorites I really find revolting.
In a perfect world where meteorites come first, Sellers should be required
to say exactly how the meteorite is prepared or what it is exposed to.  And
Sellers should be more responsible to conserve and provide this information
even before asking more mundane things like TKW 's since TLC beats that, and
w/crust, since w/rust beats out that for importance to know...This is more
than a labeling issue - it is a processing issue which directly affects the
scientific and commercial value of the piece.  Off the soap box...

Best wishes,
Doug

PS, it was sufficient to post the Seller's eBay ID, without his name.  EBay
policy is that posting in public name and ID after participating in auctions
is not legal and more to the point with your problem, you probably loose
some leverage with eBay taking punative action when there is a case to be
made that the Seller has already answered you, no matter how lame or nice
the Seller's sugestion.

ref: http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/identity-contact.html.  I don't
make a big deal out of this since you can't reach over "with pleasure" and
choke a seller, depending on how much hard earned $ is at stake, and maybe
all you are really looking is to stike back at him after a negative
transaction where you feel fooled. No further comment!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Matthias Bärmann
To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 9:02 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Handling rust problems after buying Irons


Hello list,

I'ld like to ask whether anyone of you ever bought Morasko from ebay-seller
starrymet (Lukasz Smula) and how his/her experience is until now. I did so,
and my personal experience is not very good, unfortunately (although
starrymet's ebay-feedback is excellent).

I bought, step by step, 4 pieces: 2 individuals, 1 etched slice, 1 etched
endpiece. They really were pretty when I received them, the etched pieces
with marvellous Widmannstaetten pattern and even nice and delicate Neumann
lines. I didn't hesitate to give very positive feedbacks. So far, so good.

But it took only a few months and all 4 pieces began to rust, heavily, over
and over. Meanwhile all of them have really dramatic rust-problems. And I
need to underline: I never had such rusting on/in iron, not even with Nandan
(!).

I informed the seller about this problem and received only a quite lapidary
answer, advising me to work with a (regarding my impression) pretty obsure
chemical treatment. So I contacted the seller again, asking hin whether
he'ld help me with a better solution or take the pieces back. But from now
on I never received any reaction from him. I tried several times and finally
informed him that, still remaining without any reaction, I'ld make the
problem public - what I'm doing now, not with pleasure.

Would also be interesting for me to know how the sellers of the list use to
handle such problems.

Thank you, best regards,

Matthias Baermann









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