[meteorite-list] Sale: LUNARMETEORITE.COM Domain name forsaleonEbay

[MexicoDoug at aol.com]

Bobadebt wrote:

Bob you appear to disagree with my post.  While I am sympathetic  to your 
points and more so, to your morals, I shall defend my  rationale that you 
publicly question which has nothing to do with moral views  and I intend to keep it 
that way.
 
<<There is nothing in eBays rules about listing any sellers current  auctions 
at other venues such as forums and email  lists.>>

Probably right.  Keep in mind that the member  being defamed by harvesting 
information from the eBay site and publishing  it in this public discussion 
forum has 100% positive feedback  including HUNDREDS of distinct positives. How 
common is 100%  feedback?  This guy is doing something right.  It seems his 
alledged  "web-squatting" customers and suppliers are 100% satisfied.  Please 
reflect  on that.  Now he choses to advertise here and you would like to ignore  
his eBay certified rating.  I think he is probably just a nice guy  trying to 
find a way to make a few bucks in this cruel world, and is  probably excited 
about selling as the next guy.  There are some real  bargains on his omain names 
did you see?  He can claim he is being creative  and inventing names while 
being derided as a cybersquatter and more importantly  worse terms  I won't 
repeat.
 
On the other hand neither you nor the original alarmed poster have  mentioned 
ever doing business with this person yet you feel more qualified than  all of 
those customers to libel the seller and drag the list through it like I  am 
doing now in defending my point of view as a reflex.  You  confuse this issue 
by discussing the legality of posting current  auctions.  That is an incorrect 
description of this case.  The link  posted included the user's prior 
auctions, which requires entering an eBay  userID and is not information available to 
the general public.  Whether  posting the past auctions is against eBay user 
rules or not is gray and would be  interpreted probably on a case by case basis 
according to the EBay Community  Values.  It is prohibited for members to 
copy, reproduce, modify,  create derivative works from, distribute, or publicly 
display any content  (except for Your Information) from the Site without the 
prior expressed written  permission of eBay and the appropriate third party, as 
applicable; I think it is  clear, but I'll still say it is a "probable 
violation" to be friendly. 
 
<<The really important question is how did this "Mike" person access  this 
list?  It obvious that he has no real interst in  meteorites.>>
 
NNNNNNNNNAAAAAAAA. (NO)  You ASSUME this.  He has purchased  meteorites since 
at least five years ago from several respected dealers.   How does this 
compare with your seniority as an aficionado?  That fact is  the only one I used to 
base make all of my supportive comments and the only  really important 
question.

<<I checked his completed auctions and he has sold other  meteorite related 
web 
sites and he has even stolen a picture from a real  meteorite dealer, check 
out aution number 6636007627>>
 
Interesting.  What kind of feedback did he get?  This is an  attractive 
assumption if we were in 16th century Spain.  While  it could prove true, we've 
seen several instances on the list of gossip and  suspicions backfire on great 
list members during momentary careless  lapses.  Why don't you advise the only 
potentially injured  party and let them take appropriate measures, by reporting 
it to the  owner of the image, rather than spamming the rumor mill where you 
are  jumping to defamatory conclusions?

<<So some people should  re-direct thier anger in the proper direction.>>
 
I don't know if you are referring to others with this comment, but you  
replied to my post.  Such is life, many individuals disagree and some take  the 
disagreements pesonally by attaching phantom emotions and then we  rumble.  You 
say tomato and I say jitomate (xictomatl).  Of course,  I'm right:-), but I'm 
anything but angry.  And I think others have the  right to express a bit of 
outrage for being subjected to so much redundant  profanity at once on the list 
as was so agressively posted.  And then we  get back to the point made by a 
sage poster on why so many valuable list members  have left the current pirhana 
infested list.
 
Saludos and my respects, Doug









-----  Original Message ----- 
From: MexicoDoug at aol.com
To:  meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 5:44  PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Sale: LUNARMETEORITE.COM Domain name  
forsaleonEbay


Sterling and Rob voted:

<<the seller  had already posted to the List. In other words,  D-----
took the effort  to check into the seller's practices
and provide a  warning with the  interests of List
members in mind, as a community service,  and
for  their benefit.>>

Just a personal thought and no more, Rob and  Sterling: Imagine ... if
"public service" and public servants you defend  stopped, since such 
trolling for
skeletons has its consequences as does  the invasion of privacy,  both for 
the
poster and for the health and  dynamics of the  list.  Discretion may not be
encouraged for  posting but life  would be so nice if people would consider 
it  more
often.

The only potential illegality I see is that the follow up  poster may have
used his eBay ID to hunt witches, found a few, judged them  and executed
sentence, and in the process most probably violated his eBay  user agreement 
by
publishing them in the public web archives.  I  must vote overwhelminglyn 
for Walt
and John and thank them for their  mature and attempt at discrete posts  vs.
the others I have seen for  those who thought this issue was dead after the
initial incursion into the  seller's privacy.

Sincerely yours,
A concerned Sucker for  meteorites
Doug