[meteorite-list] Chladni's Heirs NORWAY field report

[Stefan Ralew]

Hello list,

I would like to write some additions to our Norway report to avoid 
misunderstandings. I`m sorry for this, but it seems necessary. Mr. Martinsen 
(the finder of the first meteorite) had asked us on Sunday, 23th to inform 
other searching teams that it is NOT ALLOWED to enter his garden without 
permission. His neighbours had informed him that foreign people were in his 
garden. Mr. Martinsen's garden is to be recognized unmistakable as a private 
area because many personal belongings are there, like canvas chairs and 
various gardening tools. I want to say that we don't belong to any 
"meteorite police" but we simply offer our help to the garden owner after 
his inquiry because we wanted to avoid that the finding site will be closed 
for the future for other visitors. Mr. Martinsen was so kind to show really 
to all collectors the finding place and the famous metal plate with the 
impact dint. But we all should respect his private sphere.

Marcin, it is no joy for me to write this, but you are wrong with your view 
of the things. You had written in your email that you have gone to Mr. 
Martinsens garden and have removed meteorite samples without permission 
because you had no time to ask for a permission. You have also written that 
you had spoken long with Mr. Martinsen and I think that you had in the 
conversation a good opportunity to ask for a permission. It is a simple fact 
that Mr. Martinsen's garden and everything what is located there is his 
personal property, and nobody has a right to remove something there.


Marcin wrote:
> "...slandered by others who are also not clean like crystals."
If you try to call our reputation into question, then I ask you to write 
your accusations in clear words.

Best wishes,
Stefan
Chladni's Heirs
I.M.C.A.#3368




----- Original Message ----- 
From: <marcin at polandmet.com>
To: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 11:50 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Chladni's Heirs NORWAY field report


> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Martin Altmann" <altmann at meteorite-martin.de>
> Hi Moni,
> if they won't behave, like that European team from a country starting with
> "P" trampling through the gardens ploughing up the flowerbeds under the 
> eyes
> of the dumbfounded house owners, I wish all success to the American party.
>
>
> ============
> Hello List.
> Its alvays nice to comeback to home from succesfull and exciting trip and
> find that You are slandered by others who are also not clean like 
> crystals.
>
> Yes we found specimens of this new incredible fall. Fragments from first
> recovered specimens that hit iron plate. Fragments that could found
> Martinsen family, people from Oslo university, Americans, Germans,
> Norwegians, Swedens hunter teams and hundreds of other persons who visit
> this place before we arrive. We was lucky enough to find them in area 
> where
> others walk destroying them with his shoes. Thats why we are pirats, 
> thiefs
> and bad guyz ?
>
> When we finaly arrived into fall site of first specimen after 4 hours of
> searching this place we enter into empty property of Mr Ragnar Martinsen 
> to
> make some photos of ourself and iron plate that lay on the ground. There 
> was
> NO TIME to wait for someone from Martinsen family and ASK for permission 
> to
> enter. We have only 2,5 day for hunt then some of our group must comeback 
> to
> regular work. Next day we meet Martinsen family at their house and make 
> with
> then nice long talk and ofcourse some photos with lucky finder. Norvegian
> people are very friendly and Im sure it was not a problem to enter
> Martinsen  property in that specific case.
>
> We look aroun forest, grass fields, streets etc. around Ragnars property,
> but we
> not enter into growing wheat/corn fields what do European team member from 
> a
> country starting with "G" and finaly was loudy removed by the locals
> patroling this area. No comments.
>
> I lost my will to write detailed report from our unplanned and express
> hunting trip even if I finally found my first meteorite, the special one 
> and
> beautifull one as I alvays dreamed.
>
>
>
> -----[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-----[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]-----
> http://www.Meteoryt.net             marcin at meteoryt.net
> http://www.PolandMET.com       marcin at polandmet.com
> http://www.Gao-Guenie.com      GSM +48(607)535 195
> --------[ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ]--------
>
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>
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