[meteorite-list] RE: Take look at what the BCC Lunar.

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mistake, I not have write to Schoner, others have write to him...



>From: "S. Ray DeRusse" <srd at ispwest.com>
>To: meteorites at hotmail.com,  meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>Subject: Take look at what the BCC Lunar.
>Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 09:05:17 -0600
>
>Greetings List;
>
>Matteo wrote an eamil to Steve Shoner asking him what is this? And Steve 
>Shoner asnswered in part.
>
>What is this ????
>
>As far as I remember I made no agreement with Ray
>DeRusse other than to trade a sample of Takysie Lake
>for some of his so called "stellar grains."  I have
>made no conclusion on these samples, nor at this time
>do I intend to do any work with these as to ascertain
>what they are.
>
>This is not exactly correct. (I will find his emails ).I did make two 
>trades with Steve, however I never asked him to test or determine what the 
>stellar grains were in the slide, never. That has been determined and I 
>sent them to him as a novelty and a trade. He sent me two samples of 
>Takysie Lake and we determined that indeed one sample was consistent with 
>the information in the MAPS article and the other was chemcially an augite 
>rich lunar microbreccia. He sent me a long long email basically in distress 
>saying he and Ninninger were convinced it was lunar but that the 
>"scientists" in Arizona would not look at it again. Somewhere I have copies 
>of these emails. But let it be known that we never asked him to identify 
>anything for us. Why would ask him to do something for us that we can do 
>ourselves? That makes no sense. Now having said this about this trade with 
>Shoner, if any of you think that Mr. Shoner did not grab that slide and run 
>to the lab to look through a microscope and examine the stellar grains, you 
>are out in lala land. If you think scientists in Arizona have not looked at 
>our material, you are out in lala land. No reasonable person and certainly 
>no prosecutor is going to believe that our sample to Steve Shoner has been 
>sitting idle somewhere.
>
>As far as Badolotti recieving a lunar sample for free he's not the only one 
>that has a sample. Matteo keeps harassing Badalotti and us and everybody. 
>If Matteo wants a sample he can ask Francesco Badolotti and if Badalotti 
>wanst to give him some that is OK with us. We sent a sample to Badalotti 
>because of his devotion to the lunar science and the Moon, he deserves it.
>
>Now to Dr. Tanuki or whatever you call yourself. You write;
>
>What is this person`s point?  If he has scientific data? on his "lunar"and 
>"other" material, why does`t he present it and be quiet instead of 
>attacking scientists and their real research?  To attack Dr.
>Rubin, the fine scientists in Texas, Mike Farmer, Matteo and Steve Schoner 
>is counter-productive and completely uncalled for.
>
>I don't know where you have been, but we have never launched an attack 
>against anyone first. Some of the idiots on the list and there are many, 
>have launched unwarranted attacks on us first. We responded with an equal 
>measure of force. You're very right it is counter productive to attack 
>scientists, if it is warranted.
>If I have made claims against any scientist it is sustainable by a direct 
>or indirect body of evidence and it is not a big secret that if you engaged 
>in scientific misconduct fraud and abuse against us we're coming after you 
>until we receive satisfaction. Because we are not going to allow abuses 
>against us under some sort of cloak of authority, by a "scientist". If I 
>were them, I would come clean long long ago because now the Federal 
>Government has a bigger clean up job to do and believe me they working on 
>it and we are woking with them.
>
>Finally to Matteo, an honorable mention, you need to get real about asking 
>NASA, JPL, JSC or Alan Rubin, any scientist, or whoever to shut us down. 
>Aside from server problems we are having, we're not going anywhere. The 
>reason for this is that its too late for them. Based on the stack of 
>documents I just sent out by a federal request. We are under the cloak of 
>authority and protection by certain governmental agencies. The people you 
>keep asking to help you would be better off finding a small dark, quiet 
>corner, to pray.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>S. Ray DeRusse,
>
>www.bccmeteorites.com
>
>

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