[meteorite-list] Pellisson,the best of hypocrisy

[SaharaTeam at aol.com]

Mr. Fectay, we have still answered about these  points (see below).

But could you explain to the list why when people  make a search on 
google.com with the french words :
"Mike Farmer meteorites  illegales"
or
"Alain Carion meteorites illegales"

They arrive on  your answer to a journalist at who you explain  :
http://www.maroc-hebdo.press.ma/MHinternet/Archives_575/html_575/4rue.html
"vous  pourriez citer d'autres personnes qui, elles n'ont pas de preuves 
d'export: Mike  Farmer (météorite lunaire d'un kilo), les frères Pellisson qui ont 
500 Kg de  météorites marocaines illégales, Alain Carion qui a des centaines 
de kilos de  météorites du Maroc, etc. Nous attendons votre réaction avant de 
saisir l'avocat  de notre société. Pour faire Valoir ce que de droit."
Bruno  Fectay

Perhaps could you translate in English your answer to this  journalist and 
share with the list your idea of what is "the best of  hypocrisy"


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About our web page, when we see the  misadventure which happened at Mike 
during his last trip, it's natural to ask  the question :

Who are these "kind" nomads who share the tea with him one  day, and the 
other day drive at full speed in a military place to escape at a  patrol with the 
risk to explode in a minefield or to be shoot by another  patrol?

What his the reason of their quick change of attitude when they  have been 
discovered at 2 km of the Algeria border, near the mined  wall?

See Mike recent email, title :
[meteorite-list] Morocco new fall  news
> We had planned a 
> careful search, but one of the Moroccans  spotted a military patrol coming 
so 
> we packed up quickly and fled. It  is very flat there, nowhere to hide. 
They 
> chased us for about 2 hours  but we were too far ahead and they could not 
> catch up, but it was close  enough for me........Mike"


Richard and Roland  Pelisson


-------------- Original message  ----------------------
From: SaharaTeam at aol.com
> We have put this web  page explaining the  situation of NWA meteorites for 
a 
> good  reason  :
>  http://www.saharamet.com/meteorite/data/Sahara/Nwa.html
> 
> 1)  the  situation of terrorism is dramatic in Algeria and there is an open 
 
> link with  contraband. See these recent posts of Mike on the  mailing with 
the 
> title :"Re:  [meteorite-list] news from Algeria"  and "[meteorite-list] 
Algeria" 
> :
> 
> >  Yep,  things are getting a little scary out in Islamland.
> > Why  anyone  would go to Algeria I dont know. The Army of God terrorist 
>  group 
> > is  still hacking people up there on a daily  basis.
> 
> > Michel, are you  suggesting that massacres do  not happen in Algeria? 
Tens 
> of 
> > thousands  are dead  over the decade.
> > I can pull up hundreds of articles on the   bombings, entire villages 
> murdered 
> > etc.
> >  Mike
> 
> 2)  meteorites bought in Morocco are coming from  Algeria, Libya and up to 
> Egypt for  their majority. It's the case  of NWA 482 and 2046 of Mike for 
> example. 
> And for  his  recent trip, when we see that he has been driven right on the 
> Algeria  border  to find the original seller... for us this seller seems 
coming  
> from Algeria  (nomads with their flocks don't live in a  minefield... in 
the 
> other case, after  one week, there will be no  more flock in live).
> 
> 3) the potential for  meteorite  prospecting in Morocco is very limited and 
> the border with Algeria  is  officially closed since 1994. For protecting 
Morocco 
> from army  groups coming  from Algeria there's a double wall of earth 
created 
>  by bulldozer and mined : one  million mines !!!. It's a military place  
where 
> it's forbidden to go. It's what  Mike has described in his  recent trip 
with the 
> title :
> [meteorite-list]  Morocco new  fall news
> 
> > .....That is 
> > when the Moroccans  told  me that this was a military-only, prohibited 
zone, 
> > and  that we were not  allowed there! I of course got a little concerned  
> > (especially when we  saw several mine-fields. We were driving  
cross-country 
> > at night with no  lights, only by full  moonlight, (not a safe thing in 
an 
> old 
> > war zone   where mine-fields are still around).
> > The next morning we arrived at  the  tent of the nomad who found the 
> > pallasite. He led us  there, over the  berm and military fighting 
> emplacements 
>  > to the site, Algeria was only  about 2 kilometers  away.......Mike"
> 
> So read our web page, you will see  that  it contains lots of things that 
> dealers have still noticed. But it's  sure  that for us meteorites are also 
a 
> world 
> patrimony  which could be protected under  the UNESCO laws  :
>  http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/metsoc2001/pdf/5150.pdf
> 
> Just  for  comparison : 20 kg of Martian meteorites have been discovered in 
 
> hot desert by  systematic prospectors who share full  documentation, 
photos, GPS 
> localization...  and only 3 kg have  been discovered by NWA approach. 
> Coordinates are important to   find paired specimen, a world patrimony is 
lost.
> 
> Richard and  Roland  Pelisson
> 
> 
> 
> --- SaharaTeam at aol.com  wrote:
> 
> > Let us explain  the French problem with  B.  Fectay/C.
> > Bidaut
> > 
> > Bruno   Fectay and Carine Bidaut have sued us in March
> >  2004 for  libel. It  is
> > "only" a civil action between B. Fectay/C.  Bidaut
> > and   us to claim for
> >  damages.
> > Now we are also claiming for damages  against   them.
> > 
> > It will take several months to the  justice  before to
> > return a  verdict.
> > As you  can imagine, nothing is  illegally done in
> > front of the  court  :
> > private emails are  not admissible.
> >  And  "nobody" can be summoned to  appear in a  civil
> >  action.
> > 
> > All the remarks and all the publicity   which  have
> > been given to this affair
> > are the  consequences  of this civil  action.
> > 
> >  Regarding our web page on NWA  meteorites, the French
> >  court  decided in our
> > favor:
> >  "Il ne peut  être contesté que le débat sur les lieux
> >  de  découvertes  des
> > météorites est légitime et présente un intérêt 
>  >  scientifique. La même
> > légitimité doit être reconnue pour  les  discussions
> > sur  le transport et les
> >  opérations  commerciales relatives à ces  météorites"
> >  
> > We hope that  everybody can return to his passion.
>  > And we wish  that  those
> > interested by the subject  will wait for the official
> >   decision.
> > And  if Bruno Fectay has something to express why
> > does  he needs  to  write
> > through N. Classen and not with his own email   ?
> > 
> > 
> > For those  who want to know more  about us and  our
> > work on Saharan
> > strewnfields,  you can  browse our web  pages:
> >  http://www.SaharaMet.com
> > 
> > And our 2003   expedition  on Mauritanian   craters:
> >
>  http://www.saharamet.com/expedition/2003/craters.html
> >   
> > Best  regards,
> > Richard and Roland  Pelisson
> >  
> >  
> 
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