[meteorite-list] SaharaMet : Point of view on NWA meteorites

Sun Dec 5 13:41:17 EST 2004

Pelisson, or the art of taking sentences out of their contExt to consolidate 
their fantasy.

Do stop to anwer them. I vote for Michael's Blood policy.

PELISSONS, I 'VE BLACKHOLED THE TRUTH I HAD IN YOU, NO MORE RADIATION WILL 
COME FROM YOU TO ME. GO TO LAYERS? BUT NEVER FORGET THAT YOU HAVE STOLEN 
METEORITES FROM ALGERIA, KNOWING THE LAWS OF THIS COUNTRY,
SHALL I UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN YOU TRAVEL YOU DO NOT RESPECT THE LAWS OF THE 
HOST COUNTRY ? THAT YOU DO NOT SMUGGLE METEORITES TROUGHT BORDERS. BTW THERE 
IS ALSO A LAW IN TUNISIA THAT PROHIBITS THEIR FREE EXPORTATION.

BOTH YOUR DAG AND ACFER CROSSED BORDERS ILLEGALLY.

I PREVIOUSLY RECONGNIZED HAVING DID THAT TOO, AS MANY OF US ON THE LIST.

IF YOU HAVE BALLS  DECLARE IT IN AN ANSWER AND LOOK AT YOUR FACE IN A MIRROR 
JUST AFTER YOU WILL FEEL REALLY HAPPY, IF YOU KNOW WHAT THIS WORD MEANS.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <SaharaTeam at aol.com>
To: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 9:51 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] SaharaMet : Point of view on NWA meteorites

> We have put this web page explaining the  situation of NWA meteorites for 
> a
> good reason  :
> http://www.saharamet.com/meteorite/data/Sahara/Nwa.html
>
> 1) the  situation of terrorism is dramatic in Algeria and there is an open
> link with  contraband. See these recent posts of Mike on the mailing with 
> the
> title :"Re:  [meteorite-list] news from Algeria" and "[meteorite-list] 
> Algeria" :
>
>>  Yep, things are getting a little scary out in Islamland.
>> Why anyone  would go to Algeria I dont know. The Army of God terrorist
> group
>> is  still hacking people up there on a daily basis.
>
>> Michel, are you  suggesting that massacres do not happen in Algeria? Tens
> of
>> thousands  are dead over the decade.
>> I can pull up hundreds of articles on the  bombings, entire villages
> murdered
>> etc.
>> Mike

JUST MISSES MY ANSWER THAT EXPLAINS WHERE ARE THE TERRORISTS LOCATED IN 
ALGERIA; CLEARLY CLOSER FROM YOUR HOME THAN FROM THE STREWN FIELDS;
YES,  PELISSONS i HAVE BEEN IN TINDOUF AND IN GARA DJEBILET, CHECK YOUR MAPS 
AND SUE ME FOR LIES IF YOUY WANT. TOTALLY LEGALLY. with VISAS AND PERMITS.
I CAN PRETEND KNOWING A BIT THE AREA;

>
> 2)  meteorites bought in Morocco are coming from Algeria, Libya and up to
> Egypt for  their majority. It's the case of NWA 482 and 2046 of Mike for 
> example.
> And for  his recent trip, when we see that he has been driven right on the
> Algeria border  to find the original seller... for us this seller seems 
> coming
> from Algeria

PROVE IT. IT SEEMS TO YOU ...... BUT YOU ARE TOTALLY UNRELIABLE !!!!!

(nomads with their flocks don't live in a minefield... in the
> other case, after  one week, there will be no more flock in live).
>
> 3) the potential for  meteorite prospecting in Morocco is very limited and
> the border with Algeria is  officially closed since 1994.

YOU HAVE PROBABLY INDICATIONS FROM THE ALGERIAN SECRET SERVICES TO SAY WHEN 
THE BORDER IS OPENNED OR CLOSED? AT ANY MINUTE.
PLEASE TELL US WHEN YOU HAVE BEEN FOR THE LAST TIME IN ALGERIA? BEHAVING 
LEGALLY I MEAN .

For protecting Morocco
> from army groups coming  from Algeria there's a double wall of earth 
> created
> by bulldozer and mined : one  million mines !!!. It's a military place 
> where
> it's forbidden to go. It's what  Mike has described in his recent trip 
> with the
> title :
> [meteorite-list]  Morocco new fall news

DON'T MIX UP THE ALGERIA- MOROCCO BORDER AND THE BERM BETWEEN THE 2 SIDES OF 
WESTERN SAHARA;
MIKE IS NOT VERY AWARE OF THE EXACT POLITICAL SITUATION BETWEEN POLISARIO, 
MOROCCO AND ALGERIA. WE EXCHANGED EMAILS ABOUT LAST YEAR;
>
>> .....That is
>> when the Moroccans told  me that this was a military-only, prohibited 
>> zone,
>> and that we were not  allowed there! I of course got a little concerned
>> (especially when we  saw several mine-fields. We were driving 
>> cross-country
>> at night with no  lights, only by full moonlight, (not a safe thing in an
> old
>> war zone  where mine-fields are still around).
>> The next morning we arrived at the  tent of the nomad who found the
>> pallasite. He led us there, over the  berm and military fighting
> emplacements
>> to the site, Algeria was only  about 2 kilometers away.......Mike"
>
> So read our web page, you will see  that it contains lots of things that
> dealers have still noticed. But it's sure  that for us meteorites are also 
> a world
> patrimony which could be protected under  the UNESCO laws  :
> http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/metsoc2001/pdf/5150.pdf
>
> Just for  comparison : 20 kg of Martian meteorites have been discovered in
> hot desert by  systematic prospectors who share full documentation, 
> photos, GPS
> localization...  and only 3 kg have been discovered by NWA approach.
> Coordinates are important to  find paired specimen, a world patrimony is 
> lost.

"WHO CARES WHERE METEORITES ARE FOUND ON EARTH, WE SEARCH WHERE THEY COME IN 
THE COSMOS" FRANCOIS ROBERT, SEARCHER,  MUSEUM NATIONAL D'HISTOIRE NATURELLE 
DE PARIS;
"I AM HAPPY WITH ALL THESE METEORITE THAT MANY HUNTERS BRING TO MY DESK IN 
MY OFFICE". same author.

 A PATRIMONY IS LOST ????? NO, MORE STUFF ON HIS DESK !!!!!!!
COORDINATES A PATRIMONY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NO, COODINATES BECAUSE THEY WANT TO GO AND SEARCH ON THE FOOTSTEPS OF 
OTHERS. TO STUDY ELLIPSE. THIS  IS POSSIBLY A SCIENTIFIC ALIBI TO KEEP ON 
STEALING METEORITES FROM SAHARAN COUNTRIES.
I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU HAVE NOT FOUND ANY METEORITE IN MAURITANIA ON YOUR 
TRIP TO THE CRATERS? OR YOU EXPORTED THEM WITHOUT AUTHORIZATIONS ? AND YOU 
GIVE THEM TO LABS WITHOUT DISCLOSING THE COORDINATES, UNLESS EVERYONE KNOWS 
THAT YOU AND SMUGGLERS...AND THE PATRIMONY IS LOST 
TOO..................UNLESS YOU HAVE BALLS AND STOP YOUR CRAPS . PLEASE TAKE 
THIS LAST SENTENCE OUT OF ITS CONTEXT

OHHH I SEE YOU HAD EXPORTATION PAPERS FROM MAURITANIA

BEST REGARDS TO ALL THE OTHERS.

MICHEL FRANCO

>
> Richard and Roland  Pelisson
>
>
>
> --- SaharaTeam at aol.com wrote:
>
>> Let us explain  the French problem with B.  Fectay/C.
>> Bidaut
>>
>> Bruno  Fectay and Carine Bidaut have sued us in March
>>  2004 for libel. It  is
>> "only" a civil action between B. Fectay/C. Bidaut
>> and   us to claim for
>> damages.
>> Now we are also claiming for damages  against  them.
>>
>> It will take several months to the justice  before to
>> return a  verdict.
>> As you can imagine, nothing is  illegally done in
>> front of the court  :
>> private emails are  not admissible.
>> And  "nobody" can be summoned to  appear in a  civil
>> action.
>>
>> All the remarks and all the publicity  which  have
>> been given to this affair
>> are the consequences  of this civil  action.
>>
>> Regarding our web page on NWA  meteorites, the French
>> court  decided in our
>> favor:
>>  "Il ne peut être contesté que le débat sur les lieux
>>  de  découvertes des
>> météorites est légitime et présente un intérêt
>>  scientifique. La même
>> légitimité doit être reconnue pour les  discussions
>> sur  le transport et les
>> opérations  commerciales relatives à ces  météorites"

PELISSON TU VEUX QUE JE PUBLIE LE JUGEMENT QUI TE CONDAMNE  EN REFERE A 
RETIRER TES MENSONGES DE TON SITE WEB MENSONGER

DO YOU WANT ME TO PUBLISH THE JUDGEMENT CONDAMNING YOU TO CLEAR YOUR NASTY 
WEB PAGES? THAT'S WINNING A CASE ?

>> We hope that  everybody can return to his passion.
>> And we wish  that  those
>> interested by the subject will wait for the official
>>   decision.
>> And if Bruno Fectay has something to express why
>> does  he needs to  write
>> through N. Classen and not with his own email  ?
>>
>>
>> For those  who want to know more about us and  our
>> work on Saharan
>> strewnfields, you can  browse our web  pages:
>> http://www.SaharaMet.com

AND CONSTAT THAT THE PELISSONS HAVE STOLEN METEORITES IN ALGERIA AND IN 
LIBYA. THAT'S ALSO A PART OF THE JOB

>>
>> And our 2003  expedition  on Mauritanian   craters:
>>
> http://www.saharamet.com/expedition/2003/craters.html
>>
>> Best  regards,
>> Richard and Roland Pelisson
>>
>>
>
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