[Scons-dev] Packaging logic?

[Alexandre Feblot]

Oh, ok. 
Thanks for the explanation. 
Forget my previous comment, then :-)

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Alexandre

> Le 3 avr. 2015 à 18:28, Kenny, Jason L <jason.l.kenny at intel.com> a écrit :
> 
> The current way is to get a source dist and install it.
> This would not stop. You would be able to do the same thing.
>  
> The difference in the below would be:
>  
> Pip install scons
>  
> would be default go to the internet and get SCons
>  
> pip install .
>  
> would install the current setup.py in the directory ( and I should add allow you to then do a “pip uninstall scons” to remove it. You can still do a “python setup.py install” as well you however would now have meta generated to remove it with a nice command.
>  
> Honestly the current model would work as is, making it work with pip just means we have more functional options to provide.
>  
> Jason
>  
>  
> From: Scons-dev [mailto:scons-dev-bounces at scons.org] On Behalf Of Alexandre Feblot
> Sent: Friday, April 3, 2015 4:45 AM
> To: SCons developer list
> Subject: Re: [Scons-dev] Packaging logic?
>  
> Hi,
> On environments where  there is no internet access (banks, army, ...), or if scons needs to be internally patched before being installed, the current way is much easier than using pip, I guess. 
> 
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> Alexandre
> 
> Le 2 avr. 2015 à 22:33, Bill Deegan <bill at baddogconsulting.com> a écrit :
> 
> Anatoly,
>  
> On non-windows platforms the current recommendation is download the .tgz, unpack, python setup.py it.
>  
> That is certainly more complicated than:
>  
> pip install scons.
>  
>  
> -Bill
>  
> On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 5:43 AM, anatoly techtonik <techtonik at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 6:22 PM, Bill Deegan <bill at baddogconsulting.com> wrote:
> Jason,
> 
> I'm in agreement.
> I think it would be great if the primary way for users to install SCons was via pip (and virtualenv if they like, which I do).
>  
> This is a can of worms IMO. SCons is not tool for Python programmers, so if you do that, you will require people to learn about Python packaging, which is an unnecessary hell. If the tools is needed by Python programmers, then plz. state how exactly.
> 
> Put the real world need first - what are you trying to achieve with that, excluding the "consistency with Python world"?
> 
> The primary function and the way of using SCons for me (and my vision for everybody else) is to be a build tool that can be put into source repository, so that you can directly build after checkout without messing with "apt-get/yum/pip install ..." and friends.
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