[meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 285, Issue 5
dave harris
entropydave at ntlworld.com
Mon Jan 5 19:25:31 EST 2026
I am an ever so silent lurker... but I have been reading these for many
years - maybe 25 years or more!
I will miss this list. It's been like that uncle I never got around to
visiting and has now just passed.
I still collect meteorites.
Dave Harris
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> 1. Re: Important Admin Message - Farewell to the Meteorite List
> (Michael Gilmer)
> 2. NASA Goddard Research Library Gutted (Michael Gilmer)
> 3. I've seen things you people wouldn't believe .... (Michael Gilmer)
> 4. Aloha no and a Hui hou! (fujmon at mac.com)
> 5. Re: I've seen things you people wouldn't believe ....
> (bigjohnshea at mail.com)
> 6. Re: I've seen things you people wouldn't believe .... (Yinan Wang)
> 7. Blaine Reed- Tucson Show and new offerings List 283 (drtanuki)
> 8. Re: Important Admin Message - Farewell to the Meteorite List
> (Greg Hupe)
> 9. Re: Important Admin Message - Farewell to the Meteorite List
> (Gary Provansal)
> 10. Re: I've seen things you people wouldn't believe ....
> (Greg Catterton)
> 11. To Art, (John Lutzon)
> 12. Re: Important Admin Message - Farewell to the Meteorite List
> (Jesse Piper)
>
>
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>
> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2025 17:38:03 -0500
> From: Michael Gilmer <meteoritemike at gmail.com>
> To: John Lutzon <jl at lutzon.com>
> Cc: Art Jones <arthur.howard.jones at gmail.com>,
> "meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com"
> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Important Admin Message - Farewell to
> the Meteorite List
> Message-ID:
> <CAKBPJW_wSPc5TUUSbzeq--yPfPxWym4zwQtssUNNko3JiuWP6w at mail.gmail.com>
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> Is anyone else really bummed out by this? This blows harder than the
> Chelyabinsk shockwave.
>
> I don't think the world is better off in the age of social media. The
> USENET was a wild wild west and Yahoo Groups were hit and miss, but at
> least they weren't nakedly dominated by gazillionaire broligarchs. You
> posted something and everyone saw it. If this was Facebook, the algorithm
> would hide this reply from most of you because I didn't pay money to
> sponsor it or boost it's visibility. Art didn't do this to get rich and
> control the discourse. He did it out of passion for meteorites and the
> community. That will be lost now and nothing on Facebook or TikTok can
> replace it.
>
> So, will noone come to the aid of the widow's son and step up to continue
> the Meteorite List or has the age of old-fashioned mailing lists finally
> come to an end?
>
> Thanks for all of your work Art. The meteorite world was better because of
> this list.
>
> All discussions of meteorites are hereby suspended until further notice ...
>
> MikeG (listee since 2008)
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 16, 2025 at 5:10?PM John Lutzon via Meteorite-list <
> meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>
>> Art,
>> I thank you, salute you and your team for all you have contributed to the
>> meteorite community for so long.
>> My best to Family.
>> John Lutzon
>>
>>> On 12/16/2025 2:24 PM EST Art Jones via Meteorite-list <
>> meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear List Members,
>>>
>>> After nearly 30 years, the Meteorite List will be shutting down on
>> January 6th.
>>> When this list started, online communities for meteorite enthusiasts
>> were rare. Over the decades, it's connected collectors, hunters,
>> researchers, and curious newcomers from around the world. The
>> conversations, finds, and knowledge shared here have been remarkable.
>>> Times change, and the ways we connect have evolved. While this chapter
>> is ending, I hope the friendships and connections made here continue.
>>> The archives will remain available at www.meteorite-list-archives.com (
>> http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com) for anyone who wants to revisit
>> past discussions. They are a few months behind but will be synched up
>> shortly.
>>> Thank you to everyone who contributed over the years?whether you've been
>> here since the beginning or joined recently.
>>> See you out in the fields,
>>>
>>> Art Jones
>>>
>>> Meteorite Central and the Meteorite List
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> Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2026 11:01:29 -0500
> From: Michael Gilmer <meteoritemike at gmail.com>
> To: Meteorite List <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Subject: [meteorite-list] NASA Goddard Research Library Gutted
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> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2026 12:31:13 -0500
> From: Michael Gilmer <meteoritemike at gmail.com>
> To: Meteorite List <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Subject: [meteorite-list] I've seen things you people wouldn't believe
> ....
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> ...I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off
> the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the
> Tannh?user Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in
> rain. Time to die...
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> Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2026 10:24:27 -1000
> From: fujmon at mac.com
> To: Meteorite-list <Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Aloha no and a Hui hou!
> Message-ID: <5C4A78BB-43F4-46C8-A1FC-5BBE7AB03E83 at mac.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
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> Sorry to see the list go but I am appreciative of all the friendships I have made through it since 2005. Mahalo Art Jones, for your work bringing us together on this list-serv.
>
>
> Gary Fujihara
> Big Kahuna Meteorites
> 105 Puhili Pl, Hilo, HI 96720
> (808) 640-9161
> http://www.ebay.com/sch/fujmon/m.html
>
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2026 20:48:19 +0000
> From: bigjohnshea at mail.com
> To: metlist <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] I've seen things you people wouldn't
> believe ....
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2026 15:52:43 -0500
> From: Yinan Wang <veomega at gmail.com>
> To: bigjohnshea at mail.com
> Cc: metlist <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] I've seen things you people wouldn't
> believe ....
> Message-ID:
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> In case I don't see ya, good afternoon, good evening, and good night!
>
> On Mon, Jan 5, 2026 at 3:48?PM Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list
> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>> My battery is low, and it's getting dark...
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent using the mobile mail app
>>
>> On 1/5/26 at 2:13?PM, Michael Gilmer via Meteorite-list wrote:
>>
>> From: "Michael Gilmer via Meteorite-list" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>> Date: January 5, 2026
>> To: "Meteorite List" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>> Cc:
>> Subject: [meteorite-list] I've seen things you people wouldn't believe ....
>> ...I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannh?user Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die...
>> ______________________________________________ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2026 21:04:49 +0000 (UTC)
> From: drtanuki <drtanuki at yahoo.com>
> To: Meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Blaine Reed- Tucson Show and new offerings
> List 283
> Message-ID: <1781590156.3818442.1767647089059 at mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
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> Dear List and Art,
> Thank you Art for providing us with this list throughout the many years! Many friends were met through the list and in the earlier years tons of information.
>
> Blaine's List-
> https://blaine-reed-meteorites.blogspot.com/2026/01/blaine-reed-meteorites-list-283.html
>
> Best Regards to All,
> Dirk Ross...Tokyo
>
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2026 16:13:37 -0500
> From: "Greg Hupe" <gmhupe at centurylink.net>
> To: "Art Jones" <arthur.howard.jones at gmail.com>,
> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Important Admin Message - Farewell to
> the Meteorite List
> Message-ID: <E6FEAD5131964E9EA692FD8A7F863F86 at Gregor>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Maybe Lost, Never Forgotten.
>
> Thank you Art for 30 years of hosting, catering and sometimes babysitting the List. As in the cosmos, violent collisions occur that send rocks to us to study and enjoy. These ?rocks? are then studied, enjoyed and babysit in museums and private collections alike. Many were shared on this very List, creating discussions and friendships along the way.
>
> Thank you All for the friendships and contributions. None will be lost or forgotten!
>
> Best Regards,
> Greg Hupe
>
> The Hupe Collection
> gmhupe at centurylink.net
> www.NaturesVault.net (Online Catalog & Reference Site)
> www.LunarRock.com (Online Planetary Meteorite Site)
> NaturesVault (Facebook, eBay)
> http://www.facebook.com/NaturesVault
> IMCA 3163
> ====================
> Click here for my current eBay auctions:
> http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Art Jones via Meteorite-list
> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2025 2:24 PM
> To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Important Admin Message - Farewell to the Meteorite List
>
> Dear List Members,
>
> After nearly 30 years, the Meteorite List will be shutting down on January 6th.
>
> When this list started, online communities for meteorite enthusiasts were rare. Over the decades, it's connected collectors, hunters, researchers, and curious newcomers from around the world. The conversations, finds, and knowledge shared here have been remarkable.
>
> Times change, and the ways we connect have evolved. While this chapter is ending, I hope the friendships and connections made here continue.
>
> The archives will remain available at www.meteorite-list-archives.com for anyone who wants to revisit past discussions. They are a few months behind but will be synched up shortly.
>
> Thank you to everyone who contributed over the years?whether you've been here since the beginning or joined recently.
>
> See you out in the fields,
>
> Art Jones
>
> Meteorite Central and the Meteorite List
>
>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2026 20:42:08 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Gary Provansal <gprovansal at yahoo.com>
> To: John Lutzon <jl at lutzon.com>, Michael Gilmer
> <meteoritemike at gmail.com>
> Cc: Art Jones <arthur.howard.jones at gmail.com>,
> "meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com"
> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Important Admin Message - Farewell to
> the Meteorite List
> Message-ID: <1646212833.5631473.1767645728634 at mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Another sad day! Seems with every new there is a loss that never is duplicated in the new
> On Monday, January 5, 2026 at 12:13:23 PM PST, Michael Gilmer via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>
> Is anyone else really bummed out by this? This blows harder than the Chelyabinsk shockwave.
> I don't think the world is better off in the age of social media. The USENET was a wild wild west and Yahoo Groups were hit and miss, but at least they weren't nakedly dominated by gazillionaire broligarchs. You posted something and everyone saw it. If this was Facebook, the algorithm would hide this reply from most of you because I didn't pay money to sponsor it or boost it's visibility. Art didn't do this to get rich and control the discourse. He did it out of passion for meteorites and the community. That will be lost now and nothing on Facebook or TikTok can replace it.?
> So, will noone come to the aid of the widow's son and step up to continue the Meteorite List or has the age of old-fashioned mailing lists finally come to an end?
> Thanks for all of your work Art. The meteorite world was better because of this list.
> All discussions of meteorites are hereby suspended until further notice ...
> MikeG (listee since 2008)
>
> On Tue, Dec 16, 2025 at 5:10?PM John Lutzon via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>
> Art,
> I thank you, salute you and your team for all you have contributed to the meteorite community for so long.
> My best to Family.
> John Lutzon
>
>> On 12/16/2025 2:24 PM EST Art Jones via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Dear List Members,
>>
>> After nearly 30 years, the Meteorite List will be shutting down on January 6th.
>>
>> When this list started, online communities for meteorite enthusiasts were rare. Over the decades, it's connected collectors, hunters, researchers, and curious newcomers from around the world. The conversations, finds, and knowledge shared here have been remarkable.
>>
>> Times change, and the ways we connect have evolved. While this chapter is ending, I hope the friendships and connections made here continue.
>>
>> The archives will remain available at www.meteorite-list-archives.com (http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com) for anyone who wants to revisit past discussions. They are a few months behind but will be synched up shortly.
>>
>> Thank you to everyone who contributed over the years?whether you've been here since the beginning or joined recently.
>>
>> See you out in the fields,
>>
>> Art Jones
>>
>> Meteorite Central and the Meteorite List
>> ______________________________________________
>> Meteorite-list mailing list
>> Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>> https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2026 20:50:18 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Greg Catterton <star_wars_collector at yahoo.com>
> To: <bigjohnshea at mail.com>, metlist
> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] I've seen things you people wouldn't
> believe ....
> Message-ID: <1468146052.7339043.1767646218447 at mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
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> Been a long time but sad to see it go. Enjoyed the updates on here?Everything changes.?
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
>
>
> On Monday, January 5, 2026, 3:48 PM, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>
> My battery is low, and it's getting dark...
>
>
> Sent using the mobile mail app
>
> On 1/5/26 at 2:13?PM, Michael Gilmer via Meteorite-list wrote:
>
> From: "Michael Gilmer via Meteorite-list" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Date: January 5, 2026
> To: "Meteorite List" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Cc:
> Subject: [meteorite-list] I've seen things you people wouldn't believe .... ...I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannh?user Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die...______________________________________________Meteorite-list mailing listMeteorite-list at meteoritecentral.comhttps://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list ______________________________________________
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> Message: 11
> Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2026 17:40:30 -0500 (EST)
> From: John Lutzon <jl at lutzon.com>
> To: "meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com"
> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Subject: [meteorite-list] To Art,
> Message-ID:
> <522396558.2232413.1767652830710 at webmail-oxcs.register.com>
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>
> Mr. Jones,
>
> I only know of you, with much admiration. Like many, I will meet with the void of the Met-List' absence. As the Sun will soon set on its presence, the Energy of your lengthy efforts, for me, will be transformed to a nostalgic memory of someone who actually formed an altruistic outlet for others. You built it and They slowly quit showing up. Thank you for staying in the game for as long as you did.
>
> My absolute Best and Thanks, to You and your Family.
> Now, go have a Happy New Year!
> John Lutzon
>
>
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> Message: 12
> Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2026 16:20:26 -0600
> From: Jesse Piper <celestialmeteorites at gmail.com>
> To: Gary Provansal <gprovansal at yahoo.com>
> Cc: Michael Gilmer <meteoritemike at gmail.com>,
> meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Important Admin Message - Farewell to
> the Meteorite List
> Message-ID:
> <CAJnMhW0ocTt11OZE1JeAoKhvnnYGwWDqOXvuUiveowMfWa5A5w at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Very sad to see the list go. I'm happy the archives will be around. And
> wish I could have been around longer.
>
> On Mon, Jan 5, 2026, 4:15?PM Gary Provansal via Meteorite-list <
> meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>
>> Another sad day! Seems with every new there is a loss that never is
>> duplicated in the new
>>
>> On Monday, January 5, 2026 at 12:13:23 PM PST, Michael Gilmer via
>> Meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Is anyone else really bummed out by this? This blows harder than the
>> Chelyabinsk shockwave.
>>
>> I don't think the world is better off in the age of social media. The
>> USENET was a wild wild west and Yahoo Groups were hit and miss, but at
>> least they weren't nakedly dominated by gazillionaire broligarchs. You
>> posted something and everyone saw it. If this was Facebook, the algorithm
>> would hide this reply from most of you because I didn't pay money to
>> sponsor it or boost it's visibility. Art didn't do this to get rich and
>> control the discourse. He did it out of passion for meteorites and the
>> community. That will be lost now and nothing on Facebook or TikTok can
>> replace it.
>>
>> So, will noone come to the aid of the widow's son and step up to continue
>> the Meteorite List or has the age of old-fashioned mailing lists finally
>> come to an end?
>>
>> Thanks for all of your work Art. The meteorite world was better because of
>> this list.
>>
>> All discussions of meteorites are hereby suspended until further notice ...
>>
>> MikeG (listee since 2008)
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 16, 2025 at 5:10?PM John Lutzon via Meteorite-list <
>> meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>>
>> Art,
>> I thank you, salute you and your team for all you have contributed to the
>> meteorite community for so long.
>> My best to Family.
>> John Lutzon
>>
>>> On 12/16/2025 2:24 PM EST Art Jones via Meteorite-list <
>> meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear List Members,
>>>
>>> After nearly 30 years, the Meteorite List will be shutting down on
>> January 6th.
>>> When this list started, online communities for meteorite enthusiasts
>> were rare. Over the decades, it's connected collectors, hunters,
>> researchers, and curious newcomers from around the world. The
>> conversations, finds, and knowledge shared here have been remarkable.
>>> Times change, and the ways we connect have evolved. While this chapter
>> is ending, I hope the friendships and connections made here continue.
>>> The archives will remain available at www.meteorite-list-archives.com (
>> http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com) for anyone who wants to revisit
>> past discussions. They are a few months behind but will be synched up
>> shortly.
>>> Thank you to everyone who contributed over the years?whether you've been
>> here since the beginning or joined recently.
>>> See you out in the fields,
>>>
>>> Art Jones
>>>
>>> Meteorite Central and the Meteorite List
>>> ______________________________________________
>>> Meteorite-list mailing list
>>> Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>>> https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
>> ______________________________________________
>> Meteorite-list mailing list
>> Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>> https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
>>
>> ______________________________________________
>> Meteorite-list mailing list
>> Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>> https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
>> ______________________________________________
>> Meteorite-list mailing list
>> Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>> https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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