[meteorite-list] BLM Public Land

Adam Hupe raremeteorites at centurylink.net
Tue Jan 9 08:03:56 EST 2018


43 CFR 8365.1-5

Collection of meteorites is limited to certain public lands. Public 
lands closed to casual collection include: developed recreation sites, 
certain units of the National Landscape Conservation System, areas 
excluded from casual collection in a Land Use Plan such as an Area of 
Critical Environmental Concern (ACEC) or a wilderness area, and areas 
closed by supplemental regulations;

Individuals are limited to collecting what can be easily hand-carried, 
up to a maximum of ten pounds of meteorites per individual, per year; 
Only surface collection of meteorites using non-motorized and 
non-mechanical equipment is allowed (metal detectors may be used); and

Casually-collected meteorites are for personal use only, and may not be 
bartered or sold for commercial purposes.



On 1/9/2018 4:50 AM, Jim Wooddell wrote:
> What law?  Can you please reference the CFR’s?
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Jim Wooddell
> 
> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for 
> Windows 10
> 
> *From: *Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list 
> <mailto:meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> *Sent: *Monday, January 8, 2018 5:23 PM
> *To: *Raremeteorites <mailto:raremeteorites at centurylink.net>
> *Cc: *metlist <mailto:meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> *Subject: *Re: [meteorite-list] BLM Public Land
> 
> I haven't hunted meteorites - other than the occasional fall or probable 
> fall - in many years and no I never had any trouble with any government 
> or state agency relating to meteorites or anything else.
> 
> On Jan 8, 2018 2:58 PM, "Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list" 
> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com 
> <mailto:meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>> wrote:
> 
>     Hi Ruben and List,
> 
>     Ruben, didn't you have problems with the BLM?
> 
>     I was just trying to save some dealers from grief.  I do not agree
>     with the new laws, that were incorporated after much press about the
>     monetary value of meteorites aired a few years back, but still abide
>     by them.
> 
>     Anybody dealing meteorites found on public land is at serious risk
>     of prosecution since they are making themselves low-hanging fruit
>     for competitors and agents alike.  It only takes one phone call. 
>     Not only that, dealers who break the law by selling these finds,
>     jeopardize the collection of meteorites on public lands for the rest
>     of us.  Dealers breaking the law can be used as examples for even
>     stricter laws forbidding the hunting of meteorites altogether.
> 
>     Adam
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>     On 1/8/2018 1:03 PM, Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list wrote:
> 
>         This just in, Adam has finally commented on everything,
>         including Ads!
> 
> 
> 
>         On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 12:54 PM, Larry Atkins via Meteorite-list
>         <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>         <mailto:meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>> wrote:
> 
>             Thanks for the heads up, but really...
> 
>             Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
> 
>             ________________________________
>             On Sunday, January 7, 2018 Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list
>             <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>             <mailto:meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>> wrote:
>             I do not normally comment on ads but sellers should keep in
>             mind that
>             selling meteorites found on public lands in the U.S. is
>             against federal law.
>             I do not want to see anybody get into trouble because, as
>             some List Members
>             have found out the hard way, the BLM does monitor meteorite
>             sales,
>             especially eBay. Meteorites may be casually collected, i.e.,
>             for free and
>             without a permit, under FLPMA However,in accordance with the
>             BLM's
>             regulations at 43 CFR 8365.1-5 collection is limited to
>             certain public
>             lands, (2) only specimens up to ten pounds may be collected
>             per person per
>             year, and (3) only surface collection with the use of
>             non-motorized and
>             non-Mechanical equipment is allowed; metal detectors are
>             okay. However,
>             specimens that are casually collected are for personal use
>             only, and may not
>             be bartered or sold for commercial purposes. Reference:
>             https://www.blm.gov/sites/blm.gov/files/uploads/IM2012-182_att1.pdf
>             Happy
>             hunting,
>             On 1/7/2018 8:56 AM, Larry Atkins via Meteorite-list wrote:
>              > > List, > > I
>             have 32 auctions running right now with some ending in about
>             24 hours. Most
>             started at .99 with no reserve and some still have no bids.
>             There are a few
>             items rarely offered, like Osceola, the witnessed fall from
>             Florida. Or NWA
>             11107 a rare eucrite melt. Right now there is a 2.8 gram end
>             cut with only 2
>             bids, $2.51 at the moment. > > Some other highlights would
>             be the rarely
>             offered Arizona find officially recognized as Bullhead City.
>             Another rarely
>             offered Arizona meteorite, the witnessed fall called Indian
>             Butte, aka
>             Stanfield. I have a low TKW Howardite that is gorgeous, NWA
>             11184. It's a
>             2.71 gram full slice that is currently at $13.00. > > Don't
>             miss the
>             extraordinary Anda tektites. The first 2 I put up sold
>             quick, there are 2
>             more up with very reasonable buy it now prices and a quick
>             search on the
>             internet will demonstrate the rarity, these things are
>             practically
>             unobtainable. > > Others listed are: > Holbrook frag's from
>             my big find in
>             2007. > A 3.2 kg Gold Basin from the Nevada side. > NWA 6581
>             an LL6. > NWA
>             10140 Lunar 1 of only 2 anorthositic troctolite. >
>             unclassified NWA type3
>             slices. > NWA 8663 A complete crusted eucrite stone with no
>             bids and no
>             reserve! > > There are others as well, take a minute and
>             check them out if
>             interested. > > Thank you. > > > >
>             https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=&_in_kw=1&_ex_kw=&_sacat=0&_udlo=&_udhi=&_ftrt=901&_ftrv=1&_sabdlo=&_sabdhi=&_samilow=&_samihi=&_sadis=15&_stpos=48438-9655&_sargn=-1%26saslc%3D1&_salic=1&_fss=1&_fsradio=%26LH_SpecificSeller%3D1&_saslop=1&_sasl=alienrockfarm&_sop=12&_dmd=1&_ipg=200
> 
>                         Sincerely, > Larry Atkins > > > >
>                         www.CosmicConnectionMeteorites.com
>                         <http://www.CosmicConnectionMeteorites.com> >
> 
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