[meteorite-list] Terrestrial Breccia Being Offered Up As Lunar// Fake KREEP

[Adam Hupe]

Yes, counterfeits and fakes are hardly anything new.  Some counterfeit 
Chinese made medications sold in the U.S. market through national chain 
stores put my mother-in-law in the hospital for several weeks and could 
have resulted in her death.  How about counterfeit batteries that blow 
up in your face while talking on a cell phone?  How about sawdust in 
your baby formula or rat turds ground into your dog's food?

I remember having to write checks to acquire meteorites from a handful 
of dealers a few decades ago.  I had no concerns whatsoever about about 
them being fake until around 1998 when a dealer was substituting a DAG 
Howardite for Kapoeta.  This was my first encounter with fraud in 
meteorites and now it is so common place that some just take it for 
granted. It is a pretty sad situation.

Just because it is common place doesn't excuse anybody from engaging in 
the unsavory practice.

Adam



On 11/26/2017 5:18 PM, Michael Farmer wrote:
> Fake things being sold for money. Wow color me shocked. Hardly anything new. What’s next? Knock-off Rolex and Prada shoes?
> Come on Adam. Yes it’s terrible but hardly news. Let them get scammed. Perhaps they should buy from real dealers.
> 
> Michael Farmer
> 
>> On Nov 27, 2017, at 8:28 AM, Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>>
>> This same seller fleeced $400.00 out of some poor collector last week:
>>
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lunar-Meteorite-from-KREEP-Basalt-to-Lunar-Granite-0-4g-Moon-Breccia-Granite/222713435793?hash=item33dac15691:g:-EMAAOSwv~RZ04Hn
>>
>> It is a bad sign when undocumented stones are starting to outnumber official material.
>>
>> I have seen the same thing happen in other collectable markets.
>>
>> What next, witnessed falls again?
>>
>> Adam
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>>> On 11/26/2017 4:17 PM, drtanuki wrote:
>>> Adam and List,
>>>    There is also a seller from Taiwan selling fake Lunar KREEP. Buyer beware!Help this guy by "liking" his post! Thanks!
>>> jacwon_7
>>> https://www.ebay.com/sch/jacwon_7/m.html?item=222713434677&hash=item33dac15235%3Ag%3AReUAAOSw2oJZ04cE&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Dirk Ross...Tokyo
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>>> To: metlist <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 9:04 AM
>>> Subject: [meteorite-list] Terrestrial Breccia Being Offered Up As Lunar
>>> Some more terrestrial breccia lacking any kind of fusion crust or
>>> flight-markings being added to the huge pile being sold as lunar:
>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lunar-Meteorite-Breccia-37g/263346210852?hash=item3d50a84824:g:zzwAAOSwEEBaGyPN
>>> This demonstrates the need to have every piece tested and made official.
>>> To me it is obvious this is not a lunar specimen but it is close enough
>>> to fool many.  Remember, a COA is worthless without official scientific
>>> data to back it up.  A recent national auction demonstrated that there
>>> is simply no secondary market for undocumented, untested and unofficial
>>> material.
>>> Material like this only undermines collector confidence which is at an
>>> all time low right now because of the amount of undocumented crap being
>>> dumped onto the market.  Fake Martian material is making a comeback as well.
>>> Adam
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