[meteorite-list] good or bad behvior and honnor

Sat Oct 4 06:17:30 EDT 2014

Hello Members List
as you maybe saw in meteorite list and also in IMCA list  many days
ago, that there was an lunar Meteorite weigh 1345g was Stolen actually and I
asked all friends to do not buy it  since am the one who bought this
piece ,the important questions here is: who stolen me? and why he did
that? here is the story...

Most of you know that it was an 5800g Lunar available here in Morocco,
for sale for a long time and since the asking price was crazy and not
acceptable ,i contacted my friends who know very well the owners and
tried to convince him  that the piece worth less than  they ask and
finally we come to an agreement due to the efforts of my friends ,we
make appointment for payment and deliration in this time i contacted
my friend who is in  US  for  informed him that the deal is closed with
the owner ,few hours after my client contacted me in order to tell me
that he is felling not comfortable since HABIBI AZIZ contacted him
saying the  stone is his at this time i feel that something is wrong
happening i contacted my friends in Gulmim to tell them the last news
and if the  owner  still in his words about the deal, but
unfortunately after some calls they told me  that AZIZ HABIBI offer
to them more than my offer and they sell the piece to HIM!!! so the
same game again from the same guy  !!!! I called AZIZ Habibi to tell
him that it is bad behavior to offer more than my offer after
closing deal and  for to be candied his reply was polite . I send
email to my client to informed him that the piece is with Habibi AZIZ
and he should continue the deal with him and am not angry at all.
>From here the problems START since Habib AZIZ informed my friend in
Gulmim who was the intermediate between me and the owner of this 5800g
lunar that"" i was the seller of this piece and i got a very large
margin from this deal and i should give him his part and all
conversations
between me and intermediate its just a games "" my friend became keep a
major grudge of me   and he wait just  an opportunity for revenge .He
offered me this 1345g lunar ,he sent me sample and i sent to Dr Tony
Irving Who confirmed it as a Feldspatic Breecia we make appointment
for payment and deliration I drove to Guilmim to get the  Stone, I
gave the Money to the Person with whom I dealed and I knew him very
well because I dealed with him many times. The Person get the money
and he drove to the Camp of the Nomad to bring the stone. I stayed in
Guilmim waiting for him, He told me that it's 2 hours driving. After 5
hours waiting , I tried to reach him but no way,  I thought it's a
Problem of the Network. I went to his house, his Family don't know
nothing about him , but when I Met his Brother , his behavior was too
Strange which Pushed me to think that something really bad happen with the
Stone , I stayed in Guilmim trying the whole Day and Night to reach
him . I passed the most stressful day in my life with my brother who
was with me . In Saturday morning, I called another person who has a
Car 4/4 in order to search in the desert I thought maybe something
happened with the car , we don't know where we search but I couldn't
stay any more calling so we just drove in the desert , suddenly I was
surprised that his phone is reachable. He Told me that the Money are
safe and he just found the nomad quit their Place and he tried to
reach them. i was little Bit reassured when I heard his voice. After
half an hour , I  tried to reach him again but no way , in Saturday
Afternoon , he called me, He Told me : '' I got  1345g Lunar  instead
of 5800g Lunar  ' I didn't understand nothing , at the same time I
didn't know what to do. I contacted some of the dealers in Guilmim
about what happened, and they told me that he believe that I Sold the
5800g  Lunar and Not Habibi Aziz. , and he thought that I got money
and didn't give him his part .
I called AZIZ Habibi and i was very very  nervous with him, Honestly he
told me that he will help me to get the stone ,i called all  dealers
Moroccan friends Aid Mohamed  ,Ali Oulmaleh ,Sbai Mohamed who was in
Denver show and Adam Aaronson ....etc in order to ask them that they
shouldn't buy this piece since it is stolen, few days AZIZ Habibi called
me to informed me that the piece is still available and it is with the
finder and the thief did not buy it , i was surprised when Habibi
send me pics of the piece and he told me that  someone send them  to
him month ago via WATTS AP but he did not take care to them because
he thought its just terrestrial rock I told him that i should buy this
piece and he said again that he will help me since he know the OWNERS.
He make appointment with the owner in Agadir. I came to Agadir and
AZIZ told me that the owner said that the  piece is sold but  he will
try since he is sure that the piece is still available and all what
owner said is not accurate in the same day Aid Mohamed Called me and
he told me that someone offer to him this piece and i asked him to try
close deal with them and am ready to pay for get the stone ,Aid drove
about 1000Km from Marakech  to Laayoune he meet the owner, saw the
piece and close the deal and he called me that its over and we just
wait until Monday for get money from the bank and pay them I was very
happy and i drove from Agadir to Laayoune  in this week end for be
ready to pay the piece without delay in Monday. At 8h30 o'clock we get
the money from the bank Aid  go to the owner and we  were surprised
,the owner said that the piece is sold by his son  and its in transit
to Agadir to AZIZ Habibi who offer to them 30000$ more than mine and
really i was at a very bad situation ,i called Aziz and aware him that
is i bad behavior and he must have no mercy since he know that i
was stolen and i need this piece urgently he told me again that he
just do that for me and he want to help and i should come to Agadir
for pay the owners and he already signed a contract with owners and all
is find ,i feel better and i drove from laayoun to Agadir again(649KM)
for meet the owners and pay him, when i arrived, Aziz said that the two
owners did not bring the piece with them so i should pay to them an
advance wish is 20000MAD and i should  back to Laayoune Again (other
649KM) for get the stone and i did, and he received 20000MAD for give
it to the owners wish i lost until this time  ,i back  to Laayoune
from Agadir and Aziz told me that he will send me the cell phone
number of the owner by SMS  for meet him in Laayoune. when i arrived i tried
to call AZIZ  a few times but  no reply i was afraid i sent him few
emails then he send me an cell phone number of someone when i call him
he told me that he don't know who I am or who is AZIZ Habibi, urgently i
asked my brother to drive back  and maybe someone want to betray us the
second time. we was afraid because we had a large cash in car.i was
really stressed and i became very  pessimistic .after a long attempts
AZIZ and his partner get the piece and they offer it again to my
client with no mercy and they send me email to informed me  that piece is
sold and they will give me a gift wish is 12000$ !!??what a
generosity??? so where is your help here Aziz?  the end of story
showed that all was a games in order of greedy and loving the MONEY.
man!! remind this words every time   ""if you
can betray some people sometimes you can not betray all people all the
time"

Thanks to all who help us and stand for us  even with good words
thanks to Darryl Pitt, Dr Tony Irving,  Gary Fujihara, Aid Mohamed,
Tomek Jakubowski, Jason Utas, Dave Ghessling, Greg Hupé, Ali Oulmaleh,
Said Hddany, Kai Ke, Adam Aaronson ....thank you so much to you all
and others here, peace be with you .
All the best

2014-10-04 2:10 GMT+02:00 rachid chaoui <chaouirachid81 at gmail.com>:
> Aziz if you have somthing you want telling me please share it here ,why you
> sent me a private SMS?
> Its time of the truth.right?
>
> Le 4 oct. 2014 00:22, "Aziz habibi" <azizhabibi at yahoo.com> a écrit :
>
>> Go ahead its à good start
>> Remembre honore and thé truth
>>
>> Envoyé de mon iPhone
>>
>> Le 4 oct. 2014 à 00:10, rachid chaoui <chaouirachid81 at gmail.com> a écrit :
>>
>> Okay Aziz
>> I will start from the 5800g lunar story wish is the original source of the
>> probleme  and everyone should know  who is Rachid and who is Aziz
>> More details in seperate email...
>>
>> Le 3 oct. 2014 21:26, "habibi abdelaziz" <azizhabibi at yahoo.com> a écrit :
>>>
>>> hello all; rachid.   darryl
>>>
>>> rachid , been honorable and honest is  not telling story's on the list or
>>> to dealers; but acting honorable and doing the right thing when u have to,
>>>
>>> i have been doing meteorite and sales 15 years; and i have been honorable
>>> and honest,
>>>
>>> so it has been long time; i avoid  to talk this kind of story's on the
>>> list; but as u brought me in this and i was just helping you ,and other
>>> friends, i see u are ungrateful and u dis-inform realty and fact into
>>> story's........
>>>
>>> i give you a last chance to be still honorable by telling the list
>>> members the all story and the the fact the reality;  not perception or what
>>> you think:
>>>
>>>  after that if  you forget your ego and tell the truth and try to be
>>> honorable i will let it go;
>>>
>>> if not,, you will see me telling the list member all the story myself
>>> and it will hurt;
>>>
>>> from a to z;
>>>
>>> and remember all what a man has is his name and honor and i will not let
>>> anyone  make my name dirty i have been fighting for my name long time
>>>
>>> now time to the truth;
>>>
>>> what is this game u are talking about, and now tell us the all
>>> story............................................................
>>>
>>>
>>> sincerly
>>>
>>> aziz
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Hello freinds
>>>
>>> All what Aid Mohamed descrive about this story is right ,what i should
>>> clear is that was not last Week end it was two week end a go.
>>>
>>> unfrontunatel we wanted to over this bad story as soon as possible but as
>>> Mohamed said the Bad Behavior of Habibi let the story to be long a bit
>>>
>>> All the best.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> habibi aziz
>>> box 70 erfoud 52200 morroco
>>> phone. 21235576145
>>> fax.21235576170

-- 
Rachid Chaoui
IMCA # 4157