[meteorite-list] Prices for SouthWest Dry Lake Finds???

[wahlperry at aol.com]

Hey Adam, Jim and List,

Meteorites are lying around like Easter Eggs you just need to go out 
and do a little hunting. I was able to recover 2.5 pounds over the last 
month in a new area. Last year while I was hunting the Indian Butte 
meteorite I stopped and talked with two BLM Rangers. We talked about 
meteorite hunting. The two rangers had no problem with me hunting for 
meteorites and wished me good luck. I have also talked with the Las 
Vegas BLM regarding meteorite hunting and have had no problem. I did 
contact the State of Arizona about hunting on State Land and they 
informed me that meteorite hunting on state land is not allowed. So far 
all of my experiences with the BLM and meteorite hunting has been 
positive. I can hopefully find some more Easter Eggs this weekend! :  )

Sonny


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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Prices for SouthWest Dry Lake Finds???


The BLM adopted the UNESCO rules designed to protect cultural 
properties and turned them into laws.  These rules have been twisted 
into law by government servants overstepping their authority with no 
debate or intelligent input whatsoever.   I talked at great length over 
10 years ago with the late Richard Norton which sounded the alarm bells 
to anybody who would listen. The BLM strengthened their position with 
the 10 pound limit and commercial permits which will never be issued 
based on television shows, falsely perceiving that meteorites are lying 
around like Easter Eggs and are worth a fortune.Not too many people 
have the resources to fight the federal government. Just talk to the 
miners that lost the Old Woman meteorite.   Our group, consisting of 
seven people, were warned by BLM agents from the Needles California 
office that meteorites are not to be resold and that they monitor eBay 
and other outlets.  Four prominent meteorite collector/dealers and a 
scientist were on this trip.   I was personally threatened, as were 
other team members, by them and will leave it at that.  Others on this 
list have been warned as well.  I will leave it up to other hunters to 
step forward with their unsavory experiences with the BLM if they feel 
so inclined.It is best to search on private property with written 
permission if want to resell your finds.  There has been  a lot of 
press about artifact hunters having their entire collections 
confiscated if they did not have provenance indicating their finds were 
made on private land.  Even then, you are not allowed to dig on private 
property for them.  They have to be surface finds. Remember, the "laws" 
written for artifacts and fossils now apply to meteorites even though 
meteorites were never mentioned in the UNESCO guidelines which were 
adopted into law.Jim, I am surprised that with all of the hunting you 
have engaged in over the years that you have not been personally 
involved with the BLM in the field.  Sometimes you run into a 
reasonable agent, but more than likely, you will run into one looking 
exert their authority.Adam----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim 
Wooddell via Meteorite-list" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>To: 
<meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 5:06 
AMSubject: Re: [meteorite-list] Prices for SouthWest Dry Lake Finds???> 
Hi Adam and all,>> Just for clarification on so called BLM Rules.>> The 
BLM put out a paper a while back the stirred up a ruckus.  The paper > 
was a GUIDELINE for area supervisors> to implement or not.  To be 
clear, they are not rules.  And, the BLM has > failed to issues claimed 
permits for> commercial ventures when ask.>> If you can show me where 
these guidelines have become rules and have > actually been 
implemented, I'd like to see it.>> Jim>>>> On 5/20/2014 4:25 PM, 
Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list wrote:>> Hi Jim and All,>>>> Unless 
they predate 1972, meteorites found on public land cannot be used >> 
for commercial purposes according to the BLM interpretations rendering 
 >> them without commercial value.  This is even before the new "laws" 
 >> limited meteorite recoveries to 10 pounds a year or less without a 
 >> commercial permit.  The interesting thing is not a single commercial 
 >> permit has ever been issued despite being applied for.>>>> Sorry for 
the bad news,>>>> That is why it so important to treat private land 
owners with the utmost >> respect in order to gain access to 
unrestricted search areas.>>>> Adam>> -- > Jim Wooddell> 
jim.wooddell at suddenlink.net> http://pages.suddenlink.net/chondrule/>> 
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