[meteorite-list] KATOL (L6) is official

[Michael Farmer]

I did it for the Cali Colombia fall as well. It is easy to do with low number fall and one person taking charge. 
To this day we don't know where the Katol stones in India are. The large Thika stone which was taken by the military in Kenya, vanished. We don't even know the weight of that stone.
Michael Farmer

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> On Jan 2, 2014, at 9:01 AM, Jeff Grossman <jngrossman at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> It would probably be best not to use a lithologic term in a numbering scheme.  Some specimens may defy such a descriptor, and in other cases it may simply be hard to tell what it is at the time of numbering.  And it would really be good not to use numbers in the same format as dense collection areas (001, 002, etc.).  I would suggest using simple numbering schemes like #1, #2, etc.  Unlike "001" or "no. 1", this symbol never occurs in meteorite names (unless as part of a tweet, I suppose).  A good example of how I think it should be done is the way Peter Jenniskens did it for Sutter's Mill and Almahata Sitta, e.g., http://asima.seti.org/sm/ and http://asima.seti.org/2008TC3/
> 
> Jeff
> 
>> On 1/2/2014 10:40 AM, Greg Hupé wrote:
>> Hi Jim,
>> 
>> I wouldn't call it "lazy science", but I agree with a numbering system when possible, but when there are several people from around the world involved in a fall collecting stones, it can be impossible to get everyone to go along with the numbering system. Take Chelyabinsk for instance, impossible to number each stone because of the hundreds of people collecting.
>> 
>> I think the next best thing is to name/number oddities like the Katol irons as maybe "Katol - iron 001". Almahata Sitta was a rare occurrence since one initial scientist/museum had all of the stones that came out and it was easy to assign numbers, same with the single dealer who first offered the variety of stones.
>> 
>> 
>> Best Regards,
>> Greg
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>> -----Original Message----- From: Jim Wooddell
>> Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2014 10:29 AM
>> To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] KATOL (L6) is official
>> 
>> Hi Greg and all,
>> 
>> I would not suggest another name nor would I suggest it's a different
>> fall.  However I would suggest a numbering schema that maybe followed a
>> find sequence.  Katol 001, Katol 005, etc.
>> 
>> I say that because if stuff is never studied...ie classified....we just
>> will never know what it's make up is.  And, that can and does apply to
>> any strewn field.
>> 
>> So, everything becomes opinion and guesswork.  Lazy science.
>> 
>> Jim
>> 
>> 
>>> On 1/2/2014 7:24 AM, Greg Hupé wrote:
>>> Since the iron was found with other fresh Katol stony pieces and some of the stony matrix is clearly visible on the outside of the iron, I see no reason to even consider cutting it to get a separate name. That is one nice thing of the iron being collected within a couple days of the fall, and well before any rains came along to oxidize and/or discolor the portion of matric on the iron. I think the few irons should be mentioned in the Official Katol classification, clearly they are 'pop-outs' from the Katol mass.
>>> 
>>> ...just my 2 Rupees worth...
>>> 
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Greg
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