[meteorite-list] Fraud from Portugal?

[Adam Hupe]

I will provide the provenance at the time of sale. Micheal, I will let the seller know that you think he is a scammer even though his reputation is excellent and he considers you a friend.  For all I know, you probably provided him with the piece.  That is the problem with falls, a few bad apples have ruined it for the rest of us by introducing doubt into the market.


The meteorite fall bubble burst a few years ago and non-fall bubble a long time before that.  It took me years to unload my North American find inventory, most of which came from TCU and I was lucky to break even.  I was barely getting a dollar a gram for the material even though its provenance was spotless.

I enjoy meteorites and still contribute to the community any chance I get.  If I need some write-offs, I will be sure to flood the market.

Best Wishes and Good Luck to all those selling at the Tucson Show.

Adam
    



----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Farmer <mike at meteoriteguy.com>
To: Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com>
Cc: Adam <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 10:35 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fraud from Portugal?

Well there you go, less than 20 kg recovered and thus clearly a fraud.
Please identify the scammer for us all.
Michael Farmer

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 11, 2014, at 9:18 AM, Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> I bought a chunk for $1.12/gram from a reputable dealer on eBay over two years ago according to my notes.  Maybe I got a break but he states that 20 kilograms was claimed but there is well over 40 kilograms available.  
> 
> 
> In any case, I do not collect falls partly because there is a lot of fraud and switches going on.
> 
> Adam
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dennis Miller <astroroks at hotmail.com>
> To: Michael Farmer <mike at meteoriteguy.com>
> Cc: Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com>; Adam <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 7:58 AM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fraud from Portugal?
> 
> Blood auctions: 2007 $10.00/gm
> 2010 $22.75/gm
> Dennis
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 11, 2014, at 8:33 AM, "Michael Farmer" <mike at meteoriteguy.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Ourique has never sold for $1 gram, unless fake. 
>> 
>> Michael Farmer
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
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>>> On Feb 10, 2014, at 10:14 AM, Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> He is crazy asking $1,800.00 for a piece of Ourique, a very common H4 which normally sales for $1.00 /gram the last time some was put up on eBay.
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>>> 
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Mendy Ouzillou <ouzillou at yahoo.com>
>>> To: Met-List <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> 
>>> Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 9:07 AM
>>> Subject: [meteorite-list] Fraud from Portugal?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I have a feeling that the fraudster from Portugal may be at it again. He is listing under the name "nrscc" and has some rare items for sale. No provenance, few details, ...
>>> 
>>> Let me know your thoughts so we can stop this if in fact a fraud.
>>> 
>>> http://www.ebay.com/sch/nrscc/m.html
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Mendy Ouzillou 
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