[meteorite-list] Possible Ancient Meteorite
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Sat Sep 14 10:10:15 EDT 2013
The painting on the wall appears to be hung up side down as well. This whole thing seems odd.
Carl
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Cheers
---- wahlperry at aol.com wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> This looks like something Proud Tom would have done! I agree with Jason
> that the pottery looks mismatched. It is hard to tell but I would bet
> the stone is not even a meteorite. I doubt that many Archeologists
> would glue a pot together this way. I was not able to pull up any
> history online (from a couple reliable sources) on his name either. It
> seems if he lives in Phoenix that he would be well aware of ASU and
> UofA as sources of information.
>
> Sonny
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jason Utas <meteoritekid at gmail.com>
> To: Anne Black <impactika at aol.com>
> Cc: Meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Fri, Sep 13, 2013 12:24 am
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Possible Ancient Meteorite
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>
> Hello Roman, All,I'm no expert, but...The vertical view of the vessel
> is triangular because the potteryfragments of the lower portion came
> from a much larger vessel --probably a bowl or two-handled vessel of
> some sort, given its apparentdiameter and the thickness of some of the
> fragments. The glazed anddelicately-formed lip and neck appear to be
> from a completelydifferent vase -- a nice one, at that. The handle is
> a bit odd, notsure about it.The first question that came to mind after
> seeing the images is "Whywould anyone glue pieces of a large pot
> together in the form of a muchsmaller one?"Upon closer inspection, I
> began to wonder why an archaeologist wouldglue mismatched pieces of
> glass or glazed pottery, painted and scoredterracotta, and other
> ceramics of greatly differing thicknessestogether into a triangular
> shape that (crudely) mimics an amphora'sshape...albeit with one
> handle.I'm surprised that anyone carbon-dated the site, given that
> thepottery and details of other artifacts are often deemed suitable
> fordating purposes.I had too many questions after reading the provided
> description.Sure, pass the fellow along to an expert...JasonOn Thu, Sep
> 12, 2013 at 8:15 PM, Anne Black <impactika at aol.com> wrote:> Hello
> Roman,>> It is really quite simple.> Since he is in Phoenix AZ, he
> should go straight to Arizona State University> (ASU) they have an
> archaeology department and some of the top meteorite> experts.> Perfect
> place to get answers to all his questions.>>> Anne M. Black>
> www.IMPACTIKA.com> IMPACTIKA at aol.com>>>> -----Original Message----->
> From: Roman Jirasek <rj at meteoritelabels.com>> To: meteorite-list
> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>> Sent: Thu, Sep 12, 2013 8:00 pm>
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Possible Ancient Meteorite>>> I had an
> archaeologist email me today asking about custom labels, and also> if I
> could help with identifying a possible ancient meteorite he found this>
> year.>> I received permission to send this question to my fellow
> colleagues which> may> have more insight into this topic. Read below,
> or click on link to see his> photos...>
> http://www.meteoritelabels.com/Ancient.htm>> Cheers,> Roman Jirasek>
> www.meteoritelabels.com>> Copied email follows....>> I am an
> Archaeologist and recovered a meteorite in 2013, on private> property
> in Sparta Greece. This meteorite was found inside an ancient vase,> and
> was buried with human remains. We dated this site to approximately,
> 220> BCE to 130 BCE, but have not yet carbon dated the item.>> I do not
> know of any meteorite falling on or near Sparta Greece. Since the>
> meteorite was found inside an honorary vase, we suspect it was held in
> high> regards, and more than likely to remember a battle.>> The only
> battle recorded that had a meteorite that fell during the battle;> was
> with ancient Turkey and the Spartans.>> It actually stopped the battle
> for two days, thinking it was a sign from the> gods. Many of the
> Spartans recovered portions of the meteorite is a sign of> victory from
> the God of Mars.>> I have enclosed a picture of the meteorite. Can you
> tell me? Of any> meteorites that fell prior to 220 BCE, since we know
> that was the earliest> date, since the meteorites was buried with the
> hoplite soldier. We assume> the meteorite obviously fell before that
> date.>> This would help us, with dating the find.>> Additionally what
> would the selling price be if it were to be sold. The> meteorite?>>
> Thank you>> Douglas Roth.> Phoenix, Arizona.> Sparta archaeology.>>
> Yes, it is fine to forward the info and pics.>> I don't have any dir
> links, but can be found, on face book for Douglas> Rothman Scottsdale,
> or ancient history on face book for archeology travel> and tours.>>
> Douglas Rothman.>>>>>> ______________________________________________>>
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