[meteorite-list] Find coordinates for recent falls

Jim Wooddell jimwooddell at gmail.com
Thu May 2 14:13:25 EDT 2013


Hi Rob,
No, I am very fair I think.  My reasoning was to provide two different
samples of field recovery.  Sutters Mill was, IMO, an exception and
not the norm.  It did not reflect an accepted practice.  So I used
Stanfield as a perfect example of the difference.  It is not the
normal condition to share find data and recently it seems that
changed.  I fully understand that and do not disagree with it.  We are
not in disagreement.
Stanfield is a perfect example of the process we are speaking of
relative to Novato, Sutters Mill...not working.
To think this will work in the real world, I think, is not practical.
In a perfect world maybe.
I am not ragging on Stanfield at all....I hope it did not come across that way.

Jim


On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Matson, Robert D.
<ROBERT.D.MATSON at saic.com> wrote:
> Hi Jim/List,
>
> You wrote, in part:
>
>> While I agree 100% that it's nice to have field data....lord
>> knows I've go through hell with the Franconia project, Stanfield
>> is a perfect example of this process not working.  Has no really
>> useful field data in regards to assigned numbers.  It simply is
>> not working as data is withheld....so only those hunters know
>> what their finds are.
>
> I think you're being a bit unfair here. The first find was made
> only 11 weeks ago. Given how many manhours have gone into each
> meteorite recovery, is it really fair to expect the finders to
> reveal their coordinates when they're still out there looking
> for more? Those coordinates aren't lost; you'd only need to
> consolidate information from 2 or 3 key people to have all of
> them. Will it happen someday? I really can't say. Mind you, I
> think it would be very interesting from a scientific perspective
> to have the full picture at Indian Butte/Stanfield. There was a
> significant difference between the upper atmospheric wind
> direction, and the bolide's flight direction, which leads to a
> very complex strewn field distribution when coupled with the
> multiple fragmentations that the meteoroid underwent.
>
> But the reality is that Sutter's Mill, Novato and Battle
> Mountain are rare exceptions to the more usual practice of
> withholding coordinates for recent (and not-so-recent) falls.
> Show me the public coordinates for Ash Creek, Whetstone
> Mountains, Buzzard Coulee, Addison, Grimsby, Mifflin or even
> Park Forest. That's right: they don't exist.
>
> Best wishes,
> Rob



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