[meteorite-list] Mifflin meteorite for sale on EBay

Michael Farmer mike at meteoriteguy.com
Thu Jun 13 23:59:53 EDT 2013 

Ahhhh yes, we'll known scammer.
Good luck.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 13, 2013, at 8:59 PM, B <b1dunovant at aol.com> wrote:

> John (Bryan) Scarborough. . Can't recall his previous Ebay tag. 
> 
> I'll give him credit.. its a very nice slice. But then again, my very fresh unclassified slice sure looked a lot like his Amgala, shape and all, and it too was very nice looking :)
> 
> 
> Me myself, couldnt have a piece in my main collection which was questionable. Thus why I have a separate partition for my nice but not sure about specimens.
> 
> Brandon D.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Michael Farmer <mike at meteoriteguy.com> 
> Date: 
> To: Jason Utas <meteoritekid at gmail.com> 
> Cc: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com 
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin meteorite for sale on EBay 
> 
> 
> The fact that the label is for Springwater seems to be a problem to me.
> I also think it is more likely Ash Creek.
> Who is Lonestar meteorites? Wasn't that a known scammer?
> Michael Farmer
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jun 13, 2013, at 8:46 PM, Jason Utas <meteoritekid at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Hello Bill, Brandon, Mendy, all,
> > Honestly, this slice doesn't look bad.  If you compare the breccias:
> > 
> > (real, from a stone found by Sonny Clary)
> > http://www.ebay.com/itm/MUSEUM-QUALITY-CRUSTED-FULL-SLICE-MAGNIFICENT-MIFFLIN-METEORITE-L5-12-57-GMS-/200687083720?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2eb9e1e0c8
> > 
> > (?)
> > http://www.ebay.com/itm/MIFFLIN-L5-METEORITE-8-26g-BEAUTIFUL-CRUSTED-SLICE-WITNESSED-FALL-4-14-2010-/271220743348?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f26041cb4&nma=true&si=jHrsL50utK2qqpfbNFqr9%252BcmQSM%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
> > 
> > It looks good.  The textures are close, if not identical.  But, we
> > know the same seller sliced and sold an unclassified NWA L/LL as
> > Amgala (proven via photographic comparison of sister slices by another
> > list-member).  And, we know the variety of NWAs available.  It would
> > be tough to find a match this good.  But not impossible.
> > 
> > Mendy suggested Ash Creek -- they're close, but the brecciated portion
> > of Ash Creek is almost always a lighter grey color and the
> > unbrecciated lasts look a little more homogenous (makes sense, since
> > Ash Creek is an L6 and Mifflin's an L5).  Definitely discernible in a
> > line-up of photos.
> > 
> > Meh.  If I really wanted a slice of Mifflin, I'd probably buy this
> > slice.  But I'd scrutinize the hell of out of it, ask him for his
> > source, and verify provenance as far as I could with photos, weights,
> > invoices, etc.  Not a purchase I'd personally consider.  But it is
> > cheap - if it's real.
> > 
> > Jason
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > www.fallsandfinds.com
> > 
> > 
> > On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 8:30 PM, Mendy Ouzillou <ouzillou at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> Bill,
> >> 
> >> To Jason's point, is this past auction Ash Creek, Mifflin or something else: http://bit.ly/13FM9Aw?
> >> 
> >> Compare this Ash Creek to the present Mifflin being discussed.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Mendy Ouzillou
> >> 
> >> 
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: bill kies <parkforestmet at hotmail.com>
> >>> To: Jason Utas <meteoritekid at gmail.com>
> >>> Cc: "meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> >>> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 8:23 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin meteorite for sale on EBay
> >>> 
> >>> Let's forget the seller for the moment. Why is this not Mifflin and what
> >>> other material do you think it could be?
> >>> 
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Bill
> >>> 
> >>> --------------------------------------
> >>>> Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 20:15:43 -0700
> >>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin meteorite for sale on EBay
> >>>> From: meteoritekid at gmail.com
> >>>> To: parkforestmet at hotmail.com
> >>>> CC: b1dunovant at aol.com; meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> >>>> 
> >>>> Hello Bill, Brandon, All,
> >>>> Given the seller, I'm surprised anyone would consider it without a
> >>>> very good photographic record of provenance. Could be Mifflin: looks
> >>>> better than most of the H-chondrite misrepresented material that was
> >>>> going around. But the same seller recently sold off-looking Nuevo
> >>>> Mercurio and Chelyabinsk, and has a documented history of mixing
> >>>> things up.
> >>>> Wouldn't touch it, myself.
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> Jason
> >>>> 
> >>>> www.fallsandfinds.com
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 7:41 PM, bill kies
> >>> <parkforestmet at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> That slice seemed reasonable. I'm surprised it didn't sell.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> ----------------------------------------
> >>>>>> From: b1dunovant at aol.com
> >>>>>> Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 09:52:09 -0500
> >>>>>> To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> >>>>>> Subject: [meteorite-list] Mifflin meteorite for sale on EBay
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> All,
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> I wondered if anybody might offer some input or opinions on a 8.26g
> >>> slice of "Mifflin" currently for sale on eBay.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> http://tiny.cc/tugmyw
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Great price if as stated.. but is it or not?
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>> Brandon D.
> >>>>>> IMCA# 9312
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