[meteorite-list] "POLONNARUWA METEORITE WITH EVIDENCE OF LIFE FROM OUTER SPACE...."

Mon Jan 14 04:15:19 EST 2013

Hello Jodie, Mike, Sterling, List

I fully agree on all Jodie's pertinent remarks against a true novel  
finding, in particular the fact that the results were accepted and  
published in that "journal of Cosmology" (not Cosmetology), only a  
couple of weeks after the "discovery".
In fact, why did they not keep this secret until prestigious journals  
as "Nature" or "Science" accept to publish the first note? I guess  
that this "most important finding since 500 years" should have never  
be refused by these journals!

But if you read their paper, one can also find fundamental scientific  
counter-arguments that argue for a huge hoax.

Look at the picture of the fragment. This has NOTHING to do with Maribo!
It is far too porous!!!

I suspect a simple scoria.
I don't know whether this area is volcanic but imagine a volcanic  
scoria lying there since long months or years, for sure such diatomea  
or red rain "grains" can well find time to get inserted within the  
scoria pore structure.

The identification as a meteorite was claimed quasi exclusively on the  
basis of a simple EDX analysis (why not quantitative microprobe ?).
Where are other id data absolutely required to characterize a new  
meteorite ???

How a so to say reputed journal can accept such poor data (unless the  
"mafia" hypothesis is retained) ?

Ok, even if we rely on the EDX data alone, the fact that they found "a  
lot of" carbon (how much????) and olivine etc., becomes trivial if one  
considers that the carbon obviously comes from the fossilized diatomea  
or from the red rain grains themselves and that almost all volcanic  
scoria in the world do also contain olivine! (believe me, I am  
collecting scorias and lavas from different world wide volcanoes).

This was enough for me to stop the further reading. The sad side of  
the "news" is that it is so readily reported by journalists without  
any side checks, provided the title is sensational.

Zelimir

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"Sterling K. Webb" <sterling_k_webb at sbcglobal.net> a écrit :

> Here's the "paper."
> http://www.buckingham.ac.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Polonnaruwa-meteorite.pdf
> Connecting back to other bogus phenomena,
> the meteorite also contains cells of what are
> sopposed to be cells of the "red rain."
>
>
> Sterling K. Webb
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mendy Ouzillou" <ouzillou at yahoo.com>
> To: "'Meteorite list'" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 10:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] "POLONNARUWA METEORITE WITH EVIDENCE  
> OFLIFE FROM OUTER SPACE...."
>
>
>> Did I misread that? "Journal of Cosmetology"?
>> By the way, I am pretty sure I found evidence of extra-terrestrial life in
>> my 11 year old son's socks today. I ready to publish because, after the
>> socks, I'm ready to perish.
>>
>> Mendy
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
>> [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Jodie
>> Reynolds
>> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 6:52 PM
>> To: Michael Farmer
>> Cc: Meteorite list; Tom Randall
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] "POLONNARUWA METEORITE WITH EVIDENCE OF LIFE
>> FROM OUTER SPACE...."
>>
>> We need to be a little careful of the "Journal of Cosmology".
>>
>> Although they claim to be peer-reviewed, as blogger PZ Meyers so eloquently
>> describes them:
>>
>> -------
>> " It doesn't exist in print, consists entirely of a crude and ugly website
>> that looks like it was sucked through a wormhole from the 1990s, and
>> publishes lots of empty noise with no substantial editorial restraint. For a
>> while, it seemed to be entirely the domain of a crackpot named Rhawn Joseph
>> who called himself the emeritus professor of something mysteriously called
>> the Brain Research Laboratory, based in the general neighborhood of Northern
>> California (seriously, that was the address: "Northern California"), and
>> self-published all of his pseudo-scientific "publications" on this web
>> site."
>> --------
>>
>> They've gotten whacked for "publishing" these claims before:
>>
>> http://news.discovery.com/space/nasa-refutes-alien-discovery-claim-110307.ht
>> m
>>
>>> From Bad Astronomy:
>> http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/03/07/followup-thoughts-
>> on-the-meteorite-fossils-claim/#.UPNxZ3fSrLc
>>
>> http://rrresearch.fieldofscience.com/2011/03/is-this-claim-of-bacteria-in-me
>> teorite.html
>>
>>
>> etc, so-on, ad-nauseam.
>>
>> Give me a call when it appears in Science, Nature, Space Science Revue,
>> Astrophys, Astron_J Planetary and Space Sci, Advances in Space Research, ...
>> ;-)
>>
>> --- Jodie
>>
>>
>> Sunday, January 13, 2013, 1:42:21 PM, you wrote:
>>
>>> What a pile of steaming crap article! I love how they have put out a
>>> "scientific" paper finding life, in two weeks (I returned from Sri Lanka
>> on the 29th).
>>> The meteorite which fell there on 18 dec was a chondrite, then in
>>> typical 3rd world fashion, meteorites were hitting all over the
>>> country nightly, setting fields and houses on fire, killing dogs etc!
>>> I wouldn't bother trying to get a piece of this one, it is most likely
>>> bat crap or something similar:) Michael Farmer
>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jan 13, 2013, at 1:49 PM, Tom Randall <tommy2005 at hvc.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> http://bit.ly/UXjYZc
>>
>>>> Regards!
>>
>>>> Tom
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