[meteorite-list] Met List updating was Mbale TKW

Mendy Ouzillou ouzillou at yahoo.com
Thu Jan 10 19:56:46 EST 2013


That is one garbage pile I would gladly roll up my sleeves and dig through.

So here is a question, there is more research to be done, but already a good bit has been completed. We know of EL3, EL6, fine grained and coarse grained URE, Bencubinitte, EL3/4, EL4/5, and others I am sure I am overlooking. At what point does the MetBull get updated? Seems like valuable scientific information should be updated now and can be added to or modified later.


 
Mendy 



----- Original Message -----
> From: Anne Black <impactika at aol.com>
> To: ouzillou at yahoo.com; mstreman53 at yahoo.com; zelimir.gabelica at uha.fr
> Cc: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com; jngrossman at gmail.com
> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 4:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Met List updating  was Mbale TKW
> 
> Yes, but...........
> 
> The study of Almahata Sitta is nowhere near finished.
> Prof. Bischoff at the University of Muenster is studying each and every 
> fragment one at a time, that is how he discovered that one fragment was 
> a Bencubbinite. But he has more fragments to go thru. No way to guess 
> what else he might find!
> And Dr. Bunch called it a "Garbage Pile" of a meteorite, but a very 
> nice garbage pile!   ;-)
> 
> 
> Anne M. Black
> www.IMPACTIKA.com
> IMPACTIKA at aol.com
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mendy Ouzillou <ouzillou at yahoo.com>
> To: MEM <mstreman53 at yahoo.com>; Prof. Zelimir Gabelic
> a Université de Haut
> e Alsace ENSCMu, <zelimir.gabelica at uha.fr>
> Cc: meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>; Jeff Grossman 
> <jngrossman at gmail.com>
> Sent: Thu, Jan 10, 2013 11:42 am
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Met List updating  was Mbale TKW
> 
> 
> Elton,
> 
> Timely question because this specific issue came to mind regarding 
> Almahata
> Sitta.  AMH has many unique classifications depending on the stone that 
> is/was
> being analyzed. I think the word used has been "rubble pile", but 
> keeping track
> of the weights and unique classifications would be of great use.
> 
> 
> 
> Mendy Ouzillou
> 
> 
>> ________________________________
>>  From: MEM <mstreman53 at yahoo.com>
>> To: "Prof. Zelimir Gabelica Université de Haute Alsace ENSCMu,"
> <zelimir.gabelica at uha.fr>; Mendy Ouzillou <ouzillou at yahoo.com>
>> Cc: "meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com" 
> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>;
> Jeff Grossman <jngrossman at gmail.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 10:34 AM
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list]Met List updating  was Mbale TKW
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> This is probably for Jeff Grossman but I am curious as to the process 
> for
> updating details of a meteorite in the bulletin.  A TKW is one that is 
> commonly
> encountered.  In the case where a follow on researcher reclassifies  
> the
> meteorite based on a different mineralogy in a second specimen after 
> the first
> approval is published. Following that line of thought just how do we 
> catalog
> duel lithology where the lithologies are from entirely different 
> classes? 
> Examples could be eucrite vs howardite or an EL 5 which we later find 
> is mainly
> an and Enstatite achondrite in other studied samples. Do you go back 
> and change
> the classification? Do you catalog both classifications?  Do you stick 
> with the
> original?
>> 
>> 
>> Elton
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> ________________________________
>>>  FM
>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mbale TKW
>>> 
>>> Hi Mendy,
>>> 
>>> You are perfectly right, this is not an exact weight (200-250 kg is 
> indeed
> just a range). I don't have that paper but this is part of the summary 
> I got.
> But it is clear that this figure is just deriving from a (here 
> "breakup") model.
>>> 
>>> I am sorry for my misleading word "update". By this, I meant 
> this 
> should
> perhaps be added as a side remark to the writeup for Mbale, which I did 
> in my
> own catalog, understanding that I maintained the official tkw and the 
> number of
> pieces really collected (or at least reported).
>>> 
>>> Sorry for the confusion. Excellent remark though.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Zelimir
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  
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