[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day (suspended until further notice)

Fri Jan 4 21:39:44 EST 2013

Scientists argue all the time. Discussion is what drives every science.
Words are important. I'm impotent...wait, that's from an old joke. See,
even spelling is important!
Good Night, Fred

> People can argue about many things my question is why....................
>
> On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 6:54 PM, Galactic Stone & Ironworks
> <meteoritemike at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Attention : sales of all unobserved falls are hereby suspended until
>> further notice.  ;)
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>> On 1/4/13, Mike Bandli <fuzzfoot at comcast.net> wrote:
>>> If a meteorite falls from the sky and no one is there to hear it, does
>>> it
>>> make a sound?
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
>>> [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of
>>> hall at meteorhall.com
>>> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 5:36 PM
>>> To: Anne Black
>>> Cc: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com; valparint at aol.com
>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day
>>>
>>> Right, Anne. That is why they are referred to as a "Fall" or a "Find".
>>> Concise!
>>> Cheers, Fred Hall
>>>
>>>> Every single meteorite ever found on Earth is necessarily the result
>>>> of a fall, they are not native to Earth. The only difference is that
>>>> some falls are seen, witnessed, and some, the vast majoriry, are not.
>>>>
>>>> So calling them Observed or Unobserved falls is logical. That is what
>>>> happened to all of them.
>>>> That is simple reality.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Anne M. Black
>>>> www.IMPACTIKA.com
>>>> IMPACTIKA at aol.com
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>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> tFrom: hall <hall at meteorhall.com>
>>>> To: Michael Farmer <mike at meteoriteguy.com>
>>>> Cc: meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>; valparint
>>>> <valparint at aol.com>
>>>> Sent: Fri, Jan 4, 2013 6:13 pm
>>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    An "unobserved fall" is two words to describe the one word that has
>>>> been used for a century, "Find". The one word "Find" is good enough
>>>> for the Catalogue of Meteorites, it was good enough for Harvey
>>>> Nininger, and it is what I shall always use. Keep it concise.
>>>> Regards, Fred Hall
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  That would make sense for say New Orleans, where a stone went through
>>>> a
>>>>> house and no one in their right mind would suggest that it did not
>>>> fall at
>>>>> that time say between 8 am and 4 pm when there was no hole in the
>>>> house,
>>>>> yet it was not seen to fall.
>>>>> An old rock found in a field does not suggest anything about fall
>>>> date. So
>>>>> it is a find, something never really argued against until now?
>>>>> It has crust which can suggest it is not thousands of years old, most
>>>> of
>>>>> our Springwater meteorites have black and blue crust but nevertheless
>>>> it
>>>>> is a find.
>>>>> Michael Farmer
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 4, 2013, at 10:28 AM, <valparint at aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> An "unobserved fall" is, well, a fall that was not observed, in
>>>>>> contradistinction to a fall that was observed. The terminology of
>>>>>> the Meteoritical Bulletin Database is "Observed fall: no".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The information being conveyed is NOT that the meteorite fell but
>>>> that
>>>>>> the fall was not observed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In general, the questions about falling and finding are:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) was the fall observed?
>>>>>> 2) if so, when was it observed?
>>>>>> 3) if not, is there any guesstimate of when it fell?
>>>>>> 4) regardless of weather it was observed or not, when was it
>>>>>> actually found?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Paul Swartz
>>>>>> MPOD webmaster
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What is an "unobserved fall"? Every meteorite fell at some point. I
>>>>>>> have thousands of unobserved falls in my collection.
>>>>>>> Michael Farmer
>>>>>>>
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