[meteorite-list] Meteoroid/Asteroid Electro-Magnetic Disruption and Charge Properties?

James Beauchamp falcon99 at sbcglobal.net
Thu Feb 28 08:13:49 EST 2013


In plasma situations where electrons and nuclei are freely moving about, the math supports a very, very tiny chance that nuclei will collide with enough energy to merge or break apart into other isotopes.  

Applying a rate of trillions of "possibilities" in a volume, over a period of time, the probability becomes realizable that somewhere, something happened.

There's a whole sub-culture of people who build "fuzors" in their garages for the novelty of saying "there's a chance something is fusing in that glowing cloud."



--- On Thu, 2/28/13, Pict <pict at pict.co.uk> wrote:

> From: Pict <pict at pict.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoroid/Asteroid Electro-Magnetic Disruption and Charge Properties?
> To: Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> Date: Thursday, February 28, 2013, 1:59 AM
> Steve,
> 
> Is N2>N3 not a purely chemical reaction? In what sense is
> it nuclear?
> Perhaps I am misinterpreting this.
> 
> Regards,
> John
> 
> 
> On 28/02/2013 00:49, "Steve Dunklee" <steve.dunklee at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> 
> >Ouch!
> > Imagine the extra energy released if the detonation
> occured inside a
> >thunderhead? I had a physics instructor who thought
> small amounts of
> >nuclear reactions were caused by lightning as in
> nitrogen converted to
> >ozone. He said keep your eyes open. Just because
> something is improbable
> >it doesnt make it impossible. Some detonations happen
> when pressures get
> >to high as stated by Chris Peterson but others happen
> when the forward
> >pressure suddenly drops causing expasion or
> instability.  most are the
> >result of some kind of forward pressure change be it up
> or down.
> >cheers
> >Steve
> >
> >--- On Thu, 2/28/13, James Beauchamp <falcon99 at sbcglobal.net>
> wrote:
> >
> >> From: James Beauchamp <falcon99 at sbcglobal.net>
> >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoroid/Asteroid
> Electro-Magnetic
> >>Disruption and Charge Properties?
> >> To: "Garry Stewart" <xeqtr at yahoo.com>,
> >>meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com,
> steve.dunklee at yahoo.com,
> "drtanuki"
> >><drtanuki at yahoo.com>
> >> Date: Thursday, February 28, 2013, 4:52 AM
> >> Hi Dirk, 
> >> 
> >> A very small amount of equivalent energy is
> involved with
> >> free electron release.  Perhaps the moving
> electrons
> >> cause localized magnetic fields, but far lower than
> those
> >> needed to have large-scale charge separation.
> >> 
> >> I can see the electron clouds on the radar because
> free
> >> electrons are conductive.  But energy exchange
> is kept
> >> pretty locally.
> >> 
> >> Now, posing in intriguing situation - lets say a
> >> russian-like event occurs over a supercell
> >> thunderstorm.  It could skim across the
> anvil.
> >> The line of conducting plasma would short circuit
> the
> >> heavily charge separated areas (Charges migrate due
> to the
> >> supercooled freezing process).  I think you
> would get a
> >> nice lightshow. 
> >> 
> >> Kind of interesting...  CC meteortites, low
> >> pressure.  Volatile amino acids, carbon, and
> >> lightning,  Would be a nice situation for
> early life
> >> forms.
> >>   
> >> 
> >> --- On Wed, 2/27/13, drtanuki <drtanuki at yahoo.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> 
> >> From: drtanuki <drtanuki at yahoo.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoroid/Asteroid
> >> Electro-Magnetic Disruption and Charge Properties?
> >> To: "Garry Stewart" <xeqtr at yahoo.com>,
> >> meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com,
> >> steve.dunklee at yahoo.com
> >> Date: Wednesday, February 27, 2013, 2:15 AM
> >> 
> >> Garry and Steve,  Most excellent posts and
> information;
> >> thank you.
> >> 
> >>   Further to my original
> question.  Would/should we expect
> >> that there may be ground-to-air electro-stactic
> response
> >> (lightning) prior to the arrival of the physical
> body to
> >> physical contact with the earth; and has this been
> simulated
> >> or captured on video?
> >> Dirk Ross...Tokyo
> >> 
> >> --- On Wed, 2/27/13, Garry Stewart <xeqtr at yahoo.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> 
> >> > From: Garry Stewart <xeqtr at yahoo.com>
> >> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list]
> Meteoroid/Asteroid
> >> Electro-Magnetic Disruption and Charge Properties?
> >> > To: "drtanuki" <drtanuki at yahoo.com>
> >> > Date: Wednesday, February 27, 2013, 4:33 PM
> >> > Hi Dirk and List,
> >> > This link http://www.cddc.vt.edu/host/atomic/nukeffct/enw77b1.html
> >> > explains the propagation of atomic shockwaves
> with
> >> > interesting pictures of shockwave
> propagation.  It
> >> can
> >> > explain the effects on meteoric
> >> > explosions at high altitude.  Interesting
> read but
> >> very
> >> > long article and detailed.
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > From: drtanuki <drtanuki at yahoo.com>
> >> > > To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> >> > > Cc: 
> >> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 12:59
> AM
> >> > > Subject: [meteorite-list]
> Meteoroid/Asteroid
> >> > Electro-Magnetic Disruption and Charge
> Properties?
> >> > > 
> >> > > Dear List,
> >> > > If there is anyone willing to discuss the
> how and
> >> why
> >> > meteoroids/asteroids
> >> > > "detonate" please explain for the list
> and
> >> myself.  I
> >> > am interested 
> >> > > learning more about the
> >> electrical/mechanical/physical
> >> > forces that these bodies
> >> > > undergo as they reach the earth such as
> in the
> >> latest
> >> > Russian event. Thank you.
> >> > > Dirk Ross...Tokyo
> >> > >
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