[meteorite-list] Meteoroid/Asteroid Electro-Magnetic Disruption and Charge Properties?

Pict pict at pict.co.uk
Thu Feb 28 02:59:54 EST 2013


Steve,

Is N2>N3 not a purely chemical reaction? In what sense is it nuclear?
Perhaps I am misinterpreting this.

Regards,
John


On 28/02/2013 00:49, "Steve Dunklee" <steve.dunklee at yahoo.com> wrote:

>Ouch!
> Imagine the extra energy released if the detonation occured inside a
>thunderhead? I had a physics instructor who thought small amounts of
>nuclear reactions were caused by lightning as in nitrogen converted to
>ozone. He said keep your eyes open. Just because something is improbable
>it doesnt make it impossible. Some detonations happen when pressures get
>to high as stated by Chris Peterson but others happen when the forward
>pressure suddenly drops causing expasion or instability.  most are the
>result of some kind of forward pressure change be it up or down.
>cheers
>Steve
>
>--- On Thu, 2/28/13, James Beauchamp <falcon99 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> From: James Beauchamp <falcon99 at sbcglobal.net>
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoroid/Asteroid Electro-Magnetic
>>Disruption and Charge Properties?
>> To: "Garry Stewart" <xeqtr at yahoo.com>,
>>meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com, steve.dunklee at yahoo.com, "drtanuki"
>><drtanuki at yahoo.com>
>> Date: Thursday, February 28, 2013, 4:52 AM
>> Hi Dirk, 
>> 
>> A very small amount of equivalent energy is involved with
>> free electron release.  Perhaps the moving electrons
>> cause localized magnetic fields, but far lower than those
>> needed to have large-scale charge separation.
>> 
>> I can see the electron clouds on the radar because free
>> electrons are conductive.  But energy exchange is kept
>> pretty locally.
>> 
>> Now, posing in intriguing situation - lets say a
>> russian-like event occurs over a supercell
>> thunderstorm.  It could skim across the anvil.
>> The line of conducting plasma would short circuit the
>> heavily charge separated areas (Charges migrate due to the
>> supercooled freezing process).  I think you would get a
>> nice lightshow. 
>> 
>> Kind of interesting...  CC meteortites, low
>> pressure.  Volatile amino acids, carbon, and
>> lightning,  Would be a nice situation for early life
>> forms.
>>   
>> 
>> --- On Wed, 2/27/13, drtanuki <drtanuki at yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> From: drtanuki <drtanuki at yahoo.com>
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoroid/Asteroid
>> Electro-Magnetic Disruption and Charge Properties?
>> To: "Garry Stewart" <xeqtr at yahoo.com>,
>> meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com,
>> steve.dunklee at yahoo.com
>> Date: Wednesday, February 27, 2013, 2:15 AM
>> 
>> Garry and Steve,  Most excellent posts and information;
>> thank you.
>> 
>>   Further to my original question.  Would/should we expect
>> that there may be ground-to-air electro-stactic response
>> (lightning) prior to the arrival of the physical body to
>> physical contact with the earth; and has this been simulated
>> or captured on video?
>> Dirk Ross...Tokyo
>> 
>> --- On Wed, 2/27/13, Garry Stewart <xeqtr at yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> > From: Garry Stewart <xeqtr at yahoo.com>
>> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoroid/Asteroid
>> Electro-Magnetic Disruption and Charge Properties?
>> > To: "drtanuki" <drtanuki at yahoo.com>
>> > Date: Wednesday, February 27, 2013, 4:33 PM
>> > Hi Dirk and List,
>> > This link http://www.cddc.vt.edu/host/atomic/nukeffct/enw77b1.html
>> > explains the propagation of atomic shockwaves with
>> > interesting pictures of shockwave propagation.  It
>> can
>> > explain the effects on meteoric
>> > explosions at high altitude.  Interesting read but
>> very
>> > long article and detailed.
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > From: drtanuki <drtanuki at yahoo.com>
>> > > To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>> > > Cc: 
>> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 12:59 AM
>> > > Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteoroid/Asteroid
>> > Electro-Magnetic Disruption and Charge Properties?
>> > > 
>> > > Dear List,
>> > > If there is anyone willing to discuss the how and
>> why
>> > meteoroids/asteroids
>> > > "detonate" please explain for the list and
>> myself.  I
>> > am interested 
>> > > learning more about the
>> electrical/mechanical/physical
>> > forces that these bodies
>> > > undergo as they reach the earth such as in the
>> latest
>> > Russian event. Thank you.
>> > > Dirk Ross...Tokyo
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