[meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one)

Tue Feb 19 15:39:18 EST 2013

I agree with you Michael
I saw a Tissint at the Ensisheim show last June.
Just absolutely amazing... can't remember such
another beautiful black color !

Beside that, I am a pallasite addict

Michael B.

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From: "Michael Farmer" <mike at meteoriteguy.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 9:15 PM
To: "Graham Ensor" <graham.ensor at gmail.com>
Cc: "Adam" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one)

> I agree, Tissint was extremely underpriced. The evidence is that there is 
> virtually none on the market a year later. All nice pieces vanished into 
> collections. I will take Tissint over a Martian find any day of the week.
> Michael Farmer
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 19, 2013, at 1:06 PM, Graham Ensor <graham.ensor at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> So where does this leave Tissint...one of the most undervalued
>> meteorites of all time. If it had come down as it did , but in the USA
>> or UK...what would have the price been....and yet what is the
>> difference. Pricing at the moment has gone bonkers.
>>
>> Graham
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 7:57 PM, Michael Farmer <mike at meteoriteguy.com> 
>> wrote:
>>> Adam, those who bought black beauty for $20,000 gram will lose 90%.
>>> I expect this Russia fall to be couple bucks a gram for larger material.
>>> Anyone paying $50+ gram for this will be an idiot just like those buying 
>>> fakes on eBay. Please don't stoop to calling this a boring ordinary 
>>> meteorite, it isn't!
>>> Call it anything you want, a nuclear-bomb blast magnitude common 
>>> chondrite on the news 24/7 for last 5 days, "Gimme Gimme gimme"!
>>> Michael Farmer
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Feb 19, 2013, at 12:49 PM, Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> This is what makes meteorite collecting interesting.  Some prefer falls 
>>>> and some prefer rare types.  I am saying that historically, there is 
>>>> way more bang for the buck in a planetary piece than a fall unless it 
>>>> is a planetary fall.  The last Martian fall maintains around 40% of the 
>>>> initial offering price whereas the last several chondrite falls only 
>>>> maintains about 10-20% of their initial offer price.  For the most 
>>>> part, unless some dealer becomes desperate and charges way too much on 
>>>> his credit card, Planetary finds have the best record for maintaining 
>>>> price in the long run.
>>>>
>>>> With over a dozen falls a year, Ordinary Chondrite falls are literately 
>>>> a dime a dozen these days, excuse the pun.  You can purchase very old 
>>>> witnessed falls at a bargain by comparison to more recent falls with 
>>>> asking prices much higher.  I would prefer very old falls for 
>>>> investment purposes.
>>>>
>>>> I like planetary pieces above all else and to me, they will always be 
>>>> king.
>>>>
>>>> Adam
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> From: Michael Farmer <mike at meteoriteguy.com>
>>>> To: Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com>
>>>> Cc: Adam <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 10:55 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick 
>>>> one)
>>>>
>>>> Sorry Adam, but this fall has been seen in every country and every tv 
>>>> in the world. I would not expect it to be expensive because for sure 
>>>> thousands of stones will be recovered. The price on black beauty is 
>>>> insane, already dropping and I have Moroccans begging me to buy it. 
>>>> This Russian fall has excited the world, my sales are surging because 
>>>> of interest.
>>>> I will take a bet with you, this Russian meteorite will fill every 
>>>> collection in the world and Black beauty will be owned by very few 
>>>> people.
>>>> I know where I am going to put my money.
>>>>
>>>> Michael Farmer
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 19, 2013, at 11:13 AM, Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In my opinion, the Martian Breccia is far more important than an 
>>>>> Ordinary Chondrite and will hold its value better than a witnessed 
>>>>> fall with thousands of pieces on the market..  A witnessed fall may 
>>>>> very well lose 90% of its value within a month or two once its 
>>>>> coolness factor wears off.  The real story is in the event and once 
>>>>> the limited amount of collectors get their hands on some, the demand 
>>>>> drops off quickly.  On the other hand, the way overpriced Martian 
>>>>> meteorite will be appreciated much longer unless pairings and 
>>>>> competition drag the price down.
>>>>>
>>>>> I always wait at least six months before investing in either one so 
>>>>> that I am am not paying 4 to 10 times its settled value.
>>>>>
>>>>> Adam
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: Matt Morgan <mail at mhmeteorites.com>
>>>>> To: Mark Ford <mark.ford at southernscientific.co.uk>; 
>>>>> "Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com" 
>>>>> <Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>>>>> Cc:
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 8:49 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only 
>>>>> pick one)
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll take the Martian if we are playing that game.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark Ford <mark.ford at southernscientific.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Aw, invoking shrodinger's cat is cheating!  :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ok, in this universe, i'll take the Russian, in the other one the
>>>>>> Martian..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> lol
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
>>>>>> [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of 
>>>>>> Mendy
>>>>>> Ouzillou
>>>>>> Sent: 19 February 2013 15:57
>>>>>> To: Michael Farmer; Matt Morgan
>>>>>> Cc: Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only 
>>>>>> pick
>>>>>> one)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Agreed, they are both cool.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So if Schrodinger's cat can be dead and alive at the same time, I 
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> ignore the rules and get both.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mendy Ouzillou
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>> From: Michael Farmer <mike at meteoriteguy.com>
>>>>>>> To: Matt Morgan <mail at mhmeteorites.com>
>>>>>>> Cc: "Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com"
>>>>>>> <Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 7:35 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only
>>>>>> pick
>>>>>>> one)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But one problem, the Russian fall is likely going to be relatively
>>>>>> cheap, I am sure hundreds of kilos will be found and the price will
>>>>>> likely be low. For $500 people will be able to buy one or many 
>>>>>> stones.
>>>>>> $500 in black beauty gets you a speck hardly identifiable as a
>>>>>> meteorite.
>>>>>>> Both are very interesting meteorites, scientifically the Mars is 
>>>>>>> more
>>>>>> interesting but dynamically the Russian fall is history-book 
>>>>>> material.
>>>>>>> No comparison in my opinion:)
>>>>>>> I'll be in Russia very soon, so get your pennies counted:) Michael
>>>>>>> Farmer
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Feb 19, 2013, at 8:27 AM, Matt Morgan <mail at mhmeteorites.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why discriminate? Both are history-making meteorites in their own
>>>>>> rights. Black Beauty is not just another Mars rock and the Russian 
>>>>>> fall
>>>>>> is far from ordinary. We should see this as an opportunity (if there 
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> the opportunity to own the Russian fall) and them both to our
>>>>>> collections.
>>>>>>>> Matt
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mark Ford <mark.ford at southernscientific.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Given there is probably more tkw of black beauty than chebarkul at
>>>>>>>>> the moment -  give me 'the Russian blonde'!  :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
>>>>>>>>> [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of
>>>>>>>>> Don Merchant
>>>>>>>>> Sent: 19 February 2013 13:14
>>>>>>>>> To: Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>>>>>>>>> Cc: Don Merchant
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only 
>>>>>>>>> pick
>>>>>>>>> one)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi List. What an exciting week in the world of
>>>>>> meteorites/asteroids!
>>>>>>>>> So here goes...If you had only the choice of picking one small
>>>>>>>>> fragment for your collection what would it be. Here are the
>>>>>> choices:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Black Beauty Martian meteorite NWA 7034 or A fragment of the 
>>>>>>>>> recent
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> and most historic event of the Russian meteorite in Chebarkul.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Lets just say for ships and giggles that if you pick one you can
>>>>>>>>> never have the other!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sincerely
>>>>>>>>> Don Merchant
>>>>>>>>> Founder-Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders
>>>>>>>>> www.ctreasurescwonders.com IMCA #0960
>>>>>>>>>
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