[meteorite-list] New BLM Rules

[Shawn Alan]

Hello Listers

What is confusing for me is that its seem the new BLM rules make it impossible for scientist and institutions to hunt and collect "meteorites" in the name for science, I wonder why? You would think it would be just as easy for scientist as it is with the casual collector. As speaking of a casual collectors, how could one be 100% its a meteorite? At the end of the day, its a stone until otherwise prove or disprove by someone with expertise.

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[meteorite-list] New BLM Rules
Jeff Grossman jngrossman 
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Thu Sep 20 19:06:11 EDT 2012 
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All, 

For those of you who don't know, I contribute to 
this list as a private 
citizen, but I work at NASA headquarters, with duties 
that extend to 
oversight of curation and research programs. I will be 
reading all 
posts on the list pertaining to this issue. 

Jeff 

On 9/20/2012 6:37 PM, Jim Wooddell wrote: 

>I have been in 
communications with the BLM on and off all day. Art, 

>thank 
for the HTML reminder as I have been trying to post all day and 

>thought I had this set correctly! 

>

>Here is the first response: 

>

>Dear Mr. Wooddell: The application fee is dependent on the 
time it 

>takes for BLM to process the project proposal in the 
application. This 

>would be determined by the field office 
manager after the application 

>is submitted and reviewed. 
These fees would be estimated for you prior 

>to the 
processing of the application, and would include monitoring 

>fees as well. The permit application/ permit is 2920-1 attached; fees 

>would be on page 2 when a permit is issued. Some examples of 
what the 

>fees would be can be found on the following web 
site and one example 

>is attached. http://www.blm.gov/wo/st/en/prog/more/lands.html You 

>mentioned a “nation-wide” permit in your email. BLM 
issues permits on 

>a local level, and at maximum could be on 
a state-wide level, for 

>lands that we administer in the 
Western States. Thank you,Lucia Kuizon 

>--- 

>

>I am not going to post their second 
response but they are now aware of 

>some issues that may or 
may not change the wording. 

>

>I feel it is 
imperative for NASA to reach out and support hunters on 

>this 
issue in regards to the need to hunt fresh falls immediately, 

>without delay of some permit process. While they are 
claiming media 

>sparked this, most of us knew it was coming, 
just did not know when or 

>how the wording would be. 

>

>The current fee structure is twofold. 1. 
The application / permit. 

>2. The monitoring fee. Currently 
the fees will range from ~$100 to 

>~$1100 for commercial 
hunters....those seeking profit. This is based 

>on their 
current cost recovery methods. I have both the application 

>and the fee schedule as example based on the above response. If 

>anyone wants them shoot me a private email. 

>

>The big issue for hunters is that this 
will be based on a regional 

>level where each district 
supervisor may or may not have special 

>conditions, etc. 
Bottom line is that it will be required to have 

>permits in 
different hunting areas and could greatly increase overhead 

>for professional hunters. If hunters have to wait for a permit 

>process during a meteor event that produces meteorites, I 
feel science 

>looses. 

>

>Regards, 

>

>Jim 

>



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