[meteorite-list] Auction Kings meteorite - $2000 Sikhote Alin

Fri Mar 23 16:21:39 EDT 2012

Yup, that's it.  :)

My main point in posting that originally was to say that dealers might
consider looking into their local auction houses as an alternate venue
for sales.  With eBay fees continually climbing, there might come a
day when the local auction house's fees are not that much higher than
selling on eBay.  Combined listing, final value, and PayPal fees
already have reached about 10% of the sale price, so we are well on
our way.

The auction market is a fickle mistress indeed.

Best regards,

MikeG

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On 3/23/12, MexicoDoug <mexicodoug at aim.com> wrote:
> "The Sikhote on the TV show was similar in size, shape, and quality to
> this one - http://www.ebay..."
>
> Something like this?
> http://dsc.discovery.com/videos/auction-kings-meteorite-man.html
>
> "that is up to the buyer to decide"
>
> Yes - so true!
>
> Kindest wishes
> Doug
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Gilmer <meteoritemike at gmail.com>
> To: MexicoDoug <mexicodoug at aim.com>
> Cc: meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Fri, Mar 23, 2012 4:01 pm
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Auction Kings meteorite - $2000 Sikhote
> Alin
>
>
> Hi Doug,
>
> Ok, perhaps a cueball or baseball would be a better analogy.  The
> specimen was about fist-sized and easily fit in the palm of the hand.
> I've seen similar-sized Sikhote shrapnels regularly sell for far less
> than $1000, less yet $2000.
>
> I can't state whether or not any meteorite, even my own, are a good
> deal or not - that is up to the buyer to decide.  In the case of the
> Campo irons I sell on my website, they sell and every buyer has been
> happy with their purchase - not a single complaint or return.  And
> some of those buyers were experienced collectors - they decided that a
> Campo that will never rust is worth the extra money.  (barring putting
> it into a swimming pool)
>
> The Sikhote on the TV show was similar in size, shape, and quality to
> this one -
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Collection-Meteorite-203Gr-Shaped-SIKHOTE-ALIN-Shrapnel-/370541768509?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item564602af3d
>
> Best regards,
>
> MikeG
>
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> On 3/23/12, MexicoDoug <mexicodoug at aim.com> wrote:
>> Mike G wrote:
>>
>> "He opens it and brings out a Sikhote Alin shrapnel about the size of
> a
>> grapefruit."
>>
>> "I'd guess the piece would sell on the meteorite market or eBay for
>> about $250-$300.  The owner's desired price of $1000 seemed
> unrealistic
>> to me."
>>
>> Mike, very entertaining!  I think I will start meteorite hunting on
>> eBay.  I sure would be easier than in the field if what this is true.
>> A Sikhote the size of a grapefruit, if we use the United States
>> Department of Agriculture's (USDA) definition for an average pink
>> grapefruit size, is ...
>>
>> 3.61 kg.
>>
>> So less eBay and paypal commissions, we must be receiving $218 for
>> these Sikhote grapefruits, because we have an addiction to giving
> stuff
>> away on eBay. ;-)
>> The problem with "I caught a fish and it was *this big*" is you are
>> building a story around a supposition you have made, when in fact
> $1000
>> may have been a reasonable offering price for the meteorite, or it may
>> not have.
>>
>> Do you think 2.29 kg Campo for $749 is a better deal?
>>
>>
> http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/campo-del-cielo-iron-meteorite--big-centerpiece-specimen-229kg
>>
>> " and a bunch of people who don't know jack about meteorites"
>>
>> ???:  huh?  What does an isolated sales price have to do with knowing
>> about meteorites?
>>
>> Kindest wishes
>> Doug
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Michael Gilmer <meteoritemike at gmail.com>
>> To: meteorite-list <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>> Sent: Fri, Mar 23, 2012 10:38 am
>> Subject: [meteorite-list] Auction Kings meteorite - $2000 Sikhote Alin
>>
>>
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>> So last night I was going through the channel guide on cable TV and I
>> saw that a show called "Auction Kings" was going to have a segment
>> featuring a meteorite.  I had never watched this show before, but I
>> was very curious to see what type of meteorite would be shown.
>>
>> Apparently, the show is about a local auction house somewhere (not
>> sure where).  People bring in unusual items and the auction house
>> sells them at open auction while the cameras follow the action.
>>
>> The meteorite segment came and here is where the fun begins....
>>
>> This guy walks in carrying a Pelican-style case about the size of a
>> camera case.  He opens it and brings out a Sikhote Alin shrapnel about
>> the size of a grapefruit.  The meteorite had a nice patina, but the
>> shape was not very interesting or sculpted.  In other words, it was
>> what most of us would call a "lump", but it was obvious from the
>> appearance that it was a genuine Sikhote.
>>
>> First, the auction house guy was impressed because the meteorite had a
>> certificate of authenticity.  I thought this was laughable for obvious
>> reasons and a man who runs an auction house should know that 99% of
>> COA's are not worth the paper they are printed on.  I can go outside,
>> grab a rock from my driveway, and print up an official-looking COA for
>> it.
>>
>> Next, the owner proceeds to demonstrate that the meteorite is
>> "magnetic" because a magnet will stick to it and that is one of the
>> key tests to determine if a meteorite is genuine.  I'll skip comment
>> on this misconception and use of improper terminology because the real
>> kicker was still to come.
>>
>> So the owner tells the auction house that he is hoping to sell the
>> meteorite to help pay for a vacation to Paris and he wants $1000 for
>> it.
>>
>> Ok, at no point in the show was the weight of the specimen ever
>> mentioned.  So without knowing the weight, it is difficult to assign
>> to solid value to the piece.  But judging by what I saw (apparent size
>> and shape), I'd guess the piece would sell on the meteorite market or
>> eBay for about $250-$300.  The owner's desired price of $1000 seemed
>> unrealistic to me, but this is television and a bunch of people who
>> don't know jack about meteorites, so anything is possible.
>>
>> The auction part comes, and they have a nice turn out with maybe two
>> or three dozen potential bidders in attendance.  The meteorite ignites
>> a bidding war and the final price for the piece was.....(*drumroll
>> please*)...... $2000!  And the buyer was thrilled because he thought
>> he got a good deal.  Of course, once he gets home and does some
>> Googling to learn more about his new meteorite, he might change his
>> mind about the deal he got.  He could have went on eBay and bought a
>> half-dozen Sikhote shrapnels of that size for $2000.
>>
>> So the moral of this story is - if you have a local auction house near
>> you, go down there with a meteorite and you might be pleasantly
>> surprised how much money it will fetch.  I'm opening up the yellow
>> pages today and/or getting on the internet and see what kind of
>> auction houses we have here in the Tampa area.  I'll be more than
>> happy to offer them all the $200 stones and irons they want, as long
>> as they fetch $2000 each.  Heck, even after the auction house takes
>> it's percentage, that is still a great deal for the seller.
>>
>> And the best part is, once the buyer gets home and finds out he/she
>> got burned on the price, they cannot get mad at the seller, because
>> they are the ones who bid the item up.
>>
>> Dealers - check your local auction houses.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> MikeG
>>
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