[meteorite-list] Meteorites Reveal Another Way to Make Life's Components

Sun Mar 11 21:21:17 EDT 2012

Hi Michael and List (a different Richard here!)

Contrary to the often mis-conception that 'religion' and 'God' are 
interchangeable...and considering the 'dangerous' ground upon which a 
discussion of this sort may be inappropriate for the meteoritical discussion 
here....allow me this thought:

A person of 'faith' may not rule out transpernmia in theory;  it simply 
expands the pie.  A 'religious' person tied tether-bound to a strick 
doctrine may reject such an 'outlandish' notion out-of-hand, as it disrupts 
the entire reality from which their foundation is built.

In short, (in my small and insignificant yet human perspective), it should 
be rational to allow both transpermia and a perspective of God that 
trancends all current 'views' of even Christianity, allowing for all three 
to co-exist....just a thought....

Richard Montgomery

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Blood" <mlblood at cox.net>
To: "Dick Lipke" <RICHARDLIPKE at comcast.net>; "Meteorite List" 
<meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites Reveal Another Way to Make Life's 
Components

> Hi Richard,
>
>        As an Anthropologist I can assure you all religions have NOT
> Viewed God as male - some were female and some were non-gender
> Specific "spirit."
>
>        Garry, I agree with you - interesting topic, but I fear a good many
> On the list would see it as non-meteorite related in spite of the fact
> That transpermia (via meteorites) compels such a discussion about why
> People "of faith" would reject transpermia out of hand. They damned
> Near tortured Galileo to death for saying the world was not the center
> Of the universe (and he lived the remainder of his life under house 
> arrest).
>
>          Religious persecution of scientific recognition of inconvenient
> facts has always been part of history and continues to this day - most
> religions holding the view, "the way we see things IS the way things are"
> while others overtly state that view AND feel the DUTY to kill anyone
> when sees things differently - hence 9/11.
>
>        Weird, weird, weird & weirder.
>
>        Michael
>
>
> On 3/11/12 2:23 PM, "Dick Lipke" <RICHARDLIPKE at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Micheal,
>> That is an excellent point that has always baffled me and I could never
>> understand the thinking
>>  of any religion in this world. All the different Gods worshiped world 
>> wide
>> have always been considered a male.
>> Which brings up the problem, "Which came first, the chicken or the egg."
>> I think all these religions could be easier to swallow if their God was a
>> female.
>> That would answer the question, she "God" was a female carrying the first 
>> egg
>> that resulted
>>  in the birth of the universe.
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard Lipke
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> A major element in the problem with most of those calling
>>> Themselves Christians these days is that they
>>> See God as an anthropomorphic individual. This makes it
>>> Difficult to see the "glory" or creation in anything other
>>> Than comic book images.
>>>
>>> They actually envision God as a big (male) human who
>>> Literally, with His hands, shaped Adam out of mud.....
>>> They cannot even see what a nearly perfect allegory that is
>>> For evolution arising from a primeval "soup."
>>>
>>> Evidence of transpermia is growing - but don't confuse
>>> Them with facts.
>>>
>>> Odd
>>> Michael
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/10/12 5:58 AM, "Dick Lipke" <RICHARDLIPKE at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Years ago I got a lot of questionable looks concerning my sanity
>>>> when I
>>>> brought up
>>>> the idea of meteorites being "the Johny Appleseed of of life on
>>>> Earth" to
>>>> members of my astronomy club.
>>>> Needless to say it resulted in many,many comments of out rage.
>>>> They reminded me of how it must have felt to be among the first
>>>> to refute the idea that Earth was the center of the Universe.
>>>> Lucky for me my kind of thinking came in 20th century, back then
>>>> they still
>>>> burnt
>>>> people at the stake for being possessed by satin.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Richard Lipke
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> Meteorites Reveal Another Way to Make Life's Components
>>>>> ScienceDaily, March 9, 2012,
>>>>> http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/03/120309104845.htm
>>>>>
>>>>> Meteorites Reveal Another Way to Make Life's Components
>>>>> Klaus Schmidt, March 10, 2012
>>>>> http://spacefellowship.com/news/art27926/meteorites-reveal-another-way-to-m
>>>>> ak
>>>>> e-life-s-components.html
>>>>>
>>>>> The paper is:
>>>>>
>>>>> Burton, A. S., J. E. Elsila, M. P. Callahan, M. G. Martin, D. P.
>>>>> Glavin, N. M. Johnson, and J. P. Dworkin. A propensity
>>>>> for n-w-amino acids in thermally altered Antarctic
>>>>> meteorites. Meteoritics & Planetary Science. Article
>>>>> first published online: 8 March 2012
>>>>>
> http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1945-5100.2012.01341.x/abstrac>>>>
> t
>>>>>
>>>>> best wishes,
>>>>>
>>>>> Paul H.
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