[meteorite-list] NWAs and their country of origin

[Michael Farmer]

He had a car accident.
Common there.

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On Jul 30, 2012, at 4:47 PM, MikeG <meteoritemike at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Mike,
> 
> Thanks for the clarification.  Did the Moroccan finder of NWA 2975 die
> of natural causes inside Algeria, or did he meet a violent end?
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> MikeG
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> On 7/30/12, Michael Farmer <mike at meteoriteguy.com> wrote:
>> I bought the meteorite in Morocco,it came from Algeria that same day.
>> The Moroccan man who found all the NWA 2975/2986 stones died in Algeria
>> while going to the location. Those Martian meteorites are from Algeria.
>> 
>> Michael Farmer
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> On Jul 30, 2012, at 12:44 PM, Jeff Grossman <jngrossman at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> That's why we call these NWA.  We report what we are told about the
>>> meteorites.  If we can resolve conflicting information, we will.  But
>>> often it is impossible or difficult.
>>> 
>>> Jeff
>>> 
>>> On 7/30/2012 2:56 PM, Prof. Zelimir Gabelica Université de Haute Alsace
>>> ENSCMu, wrote:
>>>> Dear Jeff, list,
>>>> 
>>>> I overlooked with curiosity the link suggested by Jeff (example of NWA
>>>> 2986 described in Met Bull). Nothing to argue about the O isotopic data,
>>>> all is OK there.
>>>> 
>>>> But read the whole writeup by curiosity and note that NWA 2986 is
>>>> "probably paired with NWA 2975 and related stones".
>>>> 
>>>> Upon clicking at NWA 2975 (link given), it appears its country is
>>>> Algeria, the meteorite being purchased by M. Farmer in Erfoud (Morocco)
>>>> but beneath, it is said that the place op purchase is...Algeria.
>>>> Nothing dramatic though somewhat confusing...
>>>> 
>>>> Now, back to NWA 2986.
>>>> If both shergottites are paired, souldn't one expect they were found in
>>>> the same country ? Though the find place for NWA 2575 is referred to as
>>>> Algeria while Morocco is claimed to be the find place of NWA 2986 ...
>>>> 
>>>> Strange again, this could suggest to some readers that both were possibly
>>>> found somewhere near the border of the two countries (logically, where
>>>> they fell...)
>>>> 
>>>> Both were purchased (at different moment) in the same city (Erfoud) by
>>>> the same person (Farmer). Though not sure the seller was the same (only
>>>> Mike can tell).
>>>> 
>>>> It is possible the seller N° 1 told Mike NWA 2975 was found in Algeria
>>>> and the N° 2 that NWA 2986 comes from Morocco. Or  that the same seller
>>>> claimed the same...Or perhaps he (or they) actually did not know at all
>>>> where it was found...or forgot?...or mentined a country just by
>>>> chence...or by purpose ?
>>>> 
>>>> Why, in such a confusing case, not simply mention as country "NWA" or
>>>> "Sahara", as it is often mentioned so for most of the NWAs ?
>>>> 
>>>> Is there somebody in the NomCom supposed to correct and to address these
>>>> obvious uncertainties some day ?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks and best wishes,
>>>> 
>>>> Zelimir
>>> 
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