[meteorite-list] Tata-Foumzgit Martian Fall. (Why no lunar falls? and freshest lunar?)
Shawn Alan
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MikeG & Listers
MikeG
you said
"I probably should have clarified - the 21st century. So basically the
last
~12 years. It's hard to find a fall (pun intended) in the last
12 years that
is more important (overall) than this Martian. In
terms of scientific value,
Tagish Lake is probably high on the list of
the most important in the 21st
century."
I would have to agree on Tagish Lake its very important and I would say more important then TATA in regards of scientists have no clue which parent body it came from, and the presolar grains it has and the large amount of nanodiamonds found within the meteorite. With the TATA meteorite, this makes about 79 classified meteorite from Mars. In ratio to parent body, thats alot of meteorite from one location in space considered science has no clue where Tagish Lakes parent body is. So in repect to science, TATA is just another Mars meteorite, another one to add to the growing list of Martianites :)
On the other hand, ALMAHATA SITTA is by far the most signficate fall in the last 12 years
Shawn Alan
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[meteorite-list] Tata-Foumzgit Martian Fall. The most significant fall of
this century?
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Thu Jan 12 21:23:07 EST 2012
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Hi Count and List,
I probably should have clarified -
the 21st century. So basically the
last ~12 years. It's hard to find a fall
(pun intended) in the last
12 years that is more important (overall) than
this Martian. In
terms of scientific value, Tagish Lake is probably high on
the list of
the most important in the 21st century.
If NonCom
approves it as a fall and if a lot of good research comes
out of this
meteorite, then it's
surely one of the most interesting
falls of the 50
years.
Let's all cross our fingers and hope that MetSoc approves this as
a
named fall and that they approve it quickly once they have the data
required to do so. :)
Best regards,
MikeG
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On 1/12/12,
Count Deiro <countdeiro at
earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
>I only know that there are papers published making the
argument that certain
>SNC's and Alan Hills 84001 show
evidence of fossilized life forms. There are
>other
scientists who dispute this. Nakhla has the more compelling artifacts
>and is used more often to prove the hypothesis.
>
>Regards,
>
>Count Deiro
>IMCA 3536
>
>
>-----Original
Message-----
>>From: dorifry <dorifry at
embarqmail.com>
>>Sent: Jan 12, 2012 2:15 PM
>>To: Count Deiro <countdeiro at
earthlink.net>, Galactic Stone & Ironworks
>><meteoritemike at
gmail.com>, meteorite-list at
meteoritecentral.com
>>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list]
Tata-Foumzgit Martian
Fall. The most
>>significant fall of
this century?
>>
>>If life has been
confirmed on Mars, wouldn't the President have called a
>>press conference?
>>
>>Phil Whitmer
>>Joshua Tree Earth
& Space Museum
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Count Deiro" <countdeiro at
earthlink.net>
>>To: "Galactic Stone &
Ironworks" <meteoritemike at
gmail.com>;
>><meteorite-list at
meteoritecentral.com>
>>Sent: Thursday, January 12,
2012 4:41 PM
>>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tata-Foumzgit
Martian Fall. The most
>>significant fall of this century?
>>
>>
>>>Michael has asked:
>>>
>>>>Would it be safe to say, that the new Martian
"Tata" fall is the most
>>>>significant meteorite
fall of the 21st century, and perhaps of the
>>>>last
50+ years?
>>>
>>>Not even
close, Mike if by century, you were referring to falls observed
>>>through the 1900's. Take Nakhla for example.
Witnessed fall. Immediate
>>>collection by experts and
responsible for stirring the fuel under that
>>>most
famous of all Martian arguments....is there is, or is there was
>>>..life on Mars. Chock full of fossilized
nanobacteria, biomorphs and
>>>whatever else they found
last month that is being written up at this
>>>writing.
>>>
>>>Best regards,
>>>
>>>Count Deiro
>>>IMCA 3536
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original
Message-----
>>>>From: Galactic Stone & Ironworks
<meteoritemike at
gmail.com>
>>>>Sent: Jan 12, 2012 9:09 AM
>>>>To: meteorite-list at
meteoritecentral.com
>>>>Subject:
[meteorite-list] Tata-Foumzgit Martian Fall. The most
>>>>significant
>>>>fall
of this century?
>>>>
>>>>Hi List,
>>>>
>>>>Would it be safe to say, that the new Martian
"Tata" fall is the most
>>>>significant meteorite
fall of the 21st century, and perhaps of the
>>>>last
50+ years?
>>>>
>>>>All
things considered, this has the makings of a very significant
>>>>event for
science. This is the most pristine
sample of Mars to arrive
>>>>in labs for a long time,
if ever. Even the freshest NWA finds cannot
>>>>compare to fresh stones collected less than a
year after the fall.
>>>>The unbroken stones and
larger fragments will supply science with
>>>>unaltered, unoxidixed material for research. This
new Martian is
>>>>going to be widely studied, so I
hope everyone is getting their
>>>>microprobes warmed
up in anticipation.
>>>>
>>>>Word has it that institutions and museums have
been allocated a
>>>>sizeable amount of material in
terms of trades and donations, so there
>>>>appears
to be plenty of it available for study. It is safe to say
>>>>that this new meteorite
(whatever the official
name turns out to be)
>>>>will appear in a lot of
papers and journals over time.
>>>>
>>>>For science, this is the next best thing to a
manned sample-return
>>>>mission. For collectors this
is best thing since sliced bread. The
>>>>only thing
that could have made this fall better, from a collector's
>>>>standpoint, is if a stone had bounced off a
Bedouin tent and struck a
>>>>camel in the hump. But,
you can't have your cake and eat it too. ;)
>>>>
>>>>So, what is the going consensus on the details of
this fall?
>>>>
>>>>Nickname - Tata or Foumzgit (mostly "Tata")
>>>>
>>>>TKW - several
kilograms, probably less than 10kg. Much of this is in
>>>>the form of large whole stones and large broken
stones and that
>>>>material has been absorbed into
collections and is not likely to
>>>>return to the
market. Ballpark figure of material to be available
>>>>eventually on the collector market is probably "a
few kilos" (2-3kg?)
>>>>
>>>>Date of fall - July of 2011 (certain), actual
date - July 25, 2011?
>>>>Other reports say earlier
in July (13-15?)
>>>>
>>>>Time of fall - day or night? (night?)
>>>>
>>>>Type -
Shergottite, shocked, silver-grey matrix with black shock
>>>>veins. Glossy fresh black fusion crust.
>>>>
>>>>Misc - witness
reports include an audible explosion and popping sounds.
>>>>
>>>>Does all of that
sound about right?
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
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& Ironworks - Meteorites & Amber (Michael Gilmer)
>>>>
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