[meteorite-list] It's about time!

Richard Montgomery rickmont at earthlink.net
Sun Feb 12 20:57:30 EST 2012 

Doug's point is huge...and as well, please consider that this List is 
global.... and trying to seat a jury will be quite interesting.  Any defense 
attorney will cite our prior opinions, as entirely valid as they all are.

Intent is the critical folcrum.  Did he "know" that he was a fraud?  (We do, 
but then again), how can they prove he was so knowledgeable in meteoritics 
as to intentionally miss-lead?  All he has to say is that he "was pretty 
certain, and meant no intentional fraud"....

The guy is a quack, and everone knows it.   He's also sly.  The perfect 
crook.

I can't wait for him to appeal a conviction.......


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "MexicoDoug" <mexicodoug at aim.com>
To: <Jimski47 at aol.com>; <rsvp321 at hotmail.com>; 
<meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] It's about time!


> Please, don't send kick in the ass emails to Steve as he'll get his due 
> and the last thing you want to do is help him prove an assertation that 
> there is a general vendetta against him rather than genuine, objective 
> outrage at what he is doing.
>
> This is an extremely important case as in no time in history do I know of 
> a precident that forces him to believe he doesn't have meteorites, and I 
> hate to break it, but unless intent can be shown on his part, his defense 
> of a conspiracy theory againt him would be really hard to beat since in 
> the US we have the presumption of innocence and many have screws loose and 
> still aren't insane.
>
> There is no law regarding value of rocks, only regarding fraud, so that is 
> ambiguous category, and it would be civil, I'd make a huge guess.
>
> I think this would be a great case for Judge Judy, though, since in her 
> courtroom, it is a courtroom of "equity" and there he would certainly lose 
> and be told off and provide lots of entertainment for years to come for 
> everyone including Steve.  But IMO it would be the perfect solution.  I 
> would recommend to the local prosecuter, that they get rid of the case 
> with as little publicity possible since that will only tend to feed the 
> monster, and just sentence an indefinite restraining order regarding the 
> sale, trade, gift, donation, or other conveyance of minerals in general 
> with special attention to meteorites until he can provide to a court 
> designated authority proof of authenticity who accepts that.
>
> Then, perhaps that decision could be used by anyone who has purchased 
> anything and would simply like their money back, and then if anyone wrote 
> off any taxes with meteorite donations, the IRS prosecutes with their 
> definition of fraudsters, which is much more relaxed than criminal 
> proceedings, and they always get the little guilty guys.
>
> Kindest wishes.
> Doug
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jimski47 <Jimski47 at aol.com>
> To: rsvp321 <rsvp321 at hotmail.com>; meteorite-list 
> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Sun, Feb 12, 2012 6:05 pm
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] It's about time!
>
>
> Thinking back on all the outlandish claims and strange behavior that Steve
> Curry exhibited in the past, I think that his best defense in a court of
> law  would be to claim insanity.
>
> Jim K
>
> In a message dated 2/12/2012 4:33:52 P.M. Central Standard  Time,
> rsvp321 at hotmail.com writes:
>
> Hopefully, the prosecution will have a  decent scientist as a witness to
> prove to the judge that Curry's rocks aren't  meteorites, and importantly 
> that
> Curry knew it.
>
> Maybe one or two from  this List have something to offer the court case,
> considering his history  here.
>
>
>
> We all know he won't plead guilty, and like all con-men I'm  sure he's 
> very
> convincing in his scam to a noob.
>
>
>
>> From:  don.giovanni50 at yahoo.com
>> Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 12:23:20 -1000
>>  To: countdeiro at earthlink.net
>> CC: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com;  Jimski47 at aol.com
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] It's about time!
>>
>>
>> Steve Curry's ebay handle uncometeorites is "no longer a  registered
> user". Mr. Curry and I had a long, not-very-pretty email exchange a  few 
> months
> back, as I suspect a lot of listees probably did. At the beginning I
> earnestly suggested that it would only be a matter of time and that for 
> his own
>
> best interest.....well, I'm preaching to the choir here, any of you who 
> tried
> to  deal rationally with him probably got the same threats and 
> intimidation
> and  insults in return. Anyway, on the one hand it may not be charitable 
> to
> pile on -  on the other hand, for those of you who might want to take this
> particular  opportunity to send him one last love note, as I did, (or wish
> him good luck  with his trial, if you're so inclined) :) can do so at link
> below (if you're  signed in to ebay) ..............as a non-registered 
> user
> now, he may not get  these messages, but then again, he may.
>>
>>
> http://contact.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ContactUserNextGen&recipient=uncometeorites
>>
>> DG
>>
>>
>> On Feb 12, 2012, at 8:29 AM, Count Deiro  wrote:
>>
>> > Yes! This wingnut caused a lot of grief in the  community. Hope
> whoever
> filed the criminal complaint also goes for a civil suit.  Maybe that will
> finally get rid of him.
>> >
>> > Count  Deiro
>> > IMCA 3536
>> >
>> >
>> >  -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Jimski47 at aol.com
>>  >> Sent: Feb 12, 2012 7:36 AM
>> >> To: Jimski47 at aol.com,  meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>> >> Subject: Re:  [meteorite-list] It's about time!
>> >>
>> >> Link  correction:
>> >>
>> >>  _http://www.kjct8.com/news/30437647/detail.html_
>> >>  (http://www.kjct8.com/news/30437647/detail.html)
>> >>
>>  >>
>> >> In a message dated 2/12/2012 9:33:46 A.M. Central  Standard Time,
>> >> Jimski47 at aol.com writes:
>> >> They  finally got Steve Curry.
>> >>
>> >>  _http://www.kjct8.com/news/3043764/detail.html_
>> >>  (http://www.kjct8.com/news/3043764/detail.html)
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