[meteorite-list] 2nd Report from Strewnfield in Edgewood Texas

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here is a link of the radar image. the bounce back shows up in only one sweap and the elevation is about 4km 
 
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meteorite-list] 2nd Report from Strewnfield in Edgewood TexasJim 
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Tue Feb 7 14:49:38 EST 2012 
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Steve, do you have the HAS order numbers for this or screen 
shots? 

Jim 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve 
Dunklee" <steve.dunklee at 
yahoo.com> 
To: "Marc Fries" <mfries8 at 
hotmail.com>; 
<meteorite-list at 
meteoritecentral.com>; "Jim Wooddell" <nf114ec at 
npgcable.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 12:15 PM 
Subject: 
Re: [meteorite-list] 2nd Report from Strewnfield in Edgewood Texas 


there were two radar returns and two sonic booms reported. both of 
the radar 
returns are in a northern direction almost parallel. this 
indicates the 
termination as north of the radar returns. northwest of the 
lake. 
cheers 
Steve 

--- On Tue, 2/7/12, Jim Wooddell <nf114ec at 
npgcable.com> wrote: 


>From: Jim Wooddell <nf114ec at 
npgcable.com> 

>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 2nd 
Report from Strewnfield in Edgewood 

>Texas 

>To: "Marc Fries" <mfries8 at 
hotmail.com>, 

>meteorite-list at 
meteoritecentral.com 

>Date: Tuesday, February 7, 2012, 
6:50 PM 

>Hi Marc and Steve and all, 

>

>My comment that the radar information was off was because of 

>an error in the camera location to begin searching the radar 

>data? 

>

>Garbage in = 
Garbage out. 

>

>Rob figured that out and 
Jim Gamble confirmed Rob's 

>findings. 

>

>So, my statement seems to be true in at least one 

>instance. Not the fault of the radar and I felt the 

>frustration! 

>

>I think 
fine tuning on where the information to research 

>comes from 
is key and it's improving all the time. 

>

>Marc, do you have HAS numbers I could bum? I am not 

>actively 
searching this one, just want to see what you are 

>seeing. 

>

>It's a little surprising that this 
fireball was not clearly 

>distinguished and Id'ed on radar in 
my mind. Why do 

>you think that is??? 

>

>

>As a point of information, at least on 
the Sky Sentinel 

>network, the node operator can create a 
movie, regardless of 

>the "event" capture timing. 

>I can set the event capture to a very low time. 

>Because it is there to capture an event, all I need is the 

>beginning time to then go back and make a movie that will 

>"see" the entire event plus added time prior and after to 

>determine any kind of flash, etc., many seconds after the 

>event leaves my horizon. It's easy and only takes a 

>few minutes to do. IOW's, the movie, is only dependent 

>on the event capture to get a relative time to begin...and 

>that's it. 

>Knowing this, the radar guys 
(me included) can then call or 

>email the node operator 
directly and get the correct 

>information and data....the 
keyword being "directly". 

>Some operators, like me, may even 
order up the HAS data and 

>have that being processed, so that 
order number can be 

>shared as well, which can save some time 
as well when 

>contacted! 

>

>In regards to the sonic booms, that's great to hear all 

>the witnesses heard it. However, have there been 

>any time delays recorded? I have not seen any posted. 

>

>Kind regards, 

>

>

>Jim 

>

>

>Jim Wooddell 

>https://k7wfr.us

>Parker Sentinel 
SkyCam 

>

>

>

>

>----- Original Message ----- From: "Marc 
Fries" <mfries8 at 
hotmail.com> 

>To: <meteorite-list at 
meteoritecentral.com> 

>Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 
2012 10:16 AM 

>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 2nd Report from 
Strewnfield in 

>Edgewood Texas 

>

>

>> Rather quietly and "behind the 
scenes", there has been 

>a lot of work developing the use of 
weather radar to detect 

>meteorites, by Rob Matson, Jake 
Schaefer, myself, my 

>brother, and others. It's been a tall 
learning curve 

>but I think we've made a lot of progress. In 
my 

>opinion, the biggest "unknown" left at this point is to 

>figure out what size of meteorites and/or other debris 

>actually show up best in radar data. The radar reflections 

>we see are not only reflections off of solid objects but 

>also from atmospheric turbulence. And we also have to 

>unravel the knot of reflections in the Mie scattering 

>regime, where the reflected signal strength varies widely - 

>and nonlinearly - with the size of the reflector. The upshot 

>is that we are still working on sorting out what radar 

>reflection equates to what size of meteorite. If we see a 

>radar reflection, is it from search-worthy stones or just a 

>cloud of ~1g rocks, or even ablation spherules? A good part 

>of that is just a matter of timing, but not all of it. 

>Lorton, for example, produced a strong radar signature in 

>TDWR radar data but nothing was found beyond the original 

>doctors'-office-smasher, suggesting that we were looking at 

>a swarm of tiny rocks....? The same is true for the 

>Jacksonville, IL event. 

>> 

>> This DFW fireball appears to come from a 

>well-consolidated object that survived a long "burn" time 

>with little in the way of fragmentation. West, TX, by 

>comparison, fragmented extensively and produced a beautiful, 

>easy to follow set of radar signatures. My take on the DFW 

>fireball is that we're looking for a small number of large 

>rocks that reached the ground quickly, producing a 

>short-lived radar signature that requires some degree of 

>luck to figure out. ...or are we looking at 1g stones 

>that no one is going to find? Just having that answer 

>in hand will tell us a lot about where to look. 

>> 

>> Still working on it... 

>> 

>> Cheers, 

>> Marc Fries 

>> 

>> On 2/7/12 8:46 
AM, Steve Dunklee wrote: 

>>> The radar data is not off. 
It is just not 

>understood by most people how the parabola of 
a fall can 

>cause the actual landing area to be up to 12 
miles away from 

>the radar data. If you stick a french curve 
in an apple to 

>represent the west to east fall. the 
termination point is 

>north to northwest of the radar data. 

>>> Cheers 

>>> Steve Dunklee 

>>> 

>>> --- On Tue, 2/7/12, 
Jim Wooddell<nf114ec at 
npgcable.com> 

>wrote: 

>>> 

>>>> From: Jim Wooddell<nf114ec at 
npgcable.com> 

>>>> Subject: Re: 
[meteorite-list] 2nd Report from 

>Strewnfield in Edgewood 
Texas 

>>>> To: "Dennis Miller"<astroroks at 
hotmail.com>, 

>mccartney at 
blackbearddata.com, 

>meteorite-list at 
meteoritecentral.com 

>>>> Date: Tuesday, 
February 7, 2012, 4:29 PM 

>>>> Hi All! 

>>>> 

>>>> I thought it 
was determined the Radar data was 

>off??? 

>>>> 

>>>> And, it really is not a strewn 
filed until one 

>is actually 

>>>> 
found! 

>>>> 

>>>> Cheers! 

>>>> 

>>>> Jim 

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> Jim Wooddell 

>>>> http://k7wfr.us

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 

>>>> From: "Dennis Miller"<astroroks at 
hotmail.com> 

>>>> To:<mccartney at 
blackbearddata.com>; 

>>>> <meteorite-list at 
meteoritecentral.com> 

>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 
February 07, 2012 8:55 AM 

>>>> Subject: Re: 
[meteorite-list] 2nd Report from 

>Strewnfield in 

>>>> Edgewood Texas 

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>>> Nice! I am 
so glad you didn't set the 

>public price too 

>>>> high, like 

>>>>> 
Thousands 

>>>>> 

>>>>> for Ash Creek. :-) I do hope you are 

>successful in your 

>>>> hunt. Keep us 

>>>>> posted. 

>>>>> 

>>>>> Missed you in Tucson! 
Again, Good Luck! 

>>>>> 

>>>>> Dennis Miller 

>>>>> 

>>>>> 

>>>>> 

>>>>>> From: mccartney at 
blackbearddata.com 

>>>>>> To: meteorite-list at 
meteoritecentral.com 

>>>>>> Date: Mon, 6 
Feb 2012 22:17:55 -0700 

>>>>>> Subject: 
[meteorite-list] 2nd Report 

>from 

>>>> Strewnfield in Edgewood Texas 

>>>>>> Nothing has been found where the radar 

>data said it 

>>>> might be. Torvald 

>>>>>> and Donavan have left the zone replaced 

>by Stephen 

>>>> Thompson out of 

>>>>>> Fredricksburg TX who is an expert on 

>Sonic Boom 

>>>> characteristics. 

>>>>>> I've been lucky enough to get some 

>media attention 

>>>> to try to 
motivate 

>>>>>> the public to assist here is 
today's 

>interview on 

>>>> TV. 
This is the 5 TV 

>>>>>> interview I've given 
since arriving. 

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> http://dfw.cbslocal.com/video/6713580-meteor-hunters-scouring-north-texas/

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> We spent the day interviewing more 

>witnesses& 

>>>> compiling and extending 

>>>>>> the range of sonic boom farther to the 

>east to 

>>>> include Wills 
Point, and 

>>>>>> southern Lake Tawakanii. 

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> We'll do some field samplings tomorrow 

>east of 19. 

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> Also as a warning. I've heard from a 

>local that the 

>>>> landowner who owns 

>>>>>> the land in the north where the upper 

>radar blip 

>>>> is, has gotten 
very 

>>>>>> hostile to all outsiders. The 
local 

>warned me to 

>>>> tell 
everyone to stay 

>>>>>> off that property. He 
thinks the 

>landowner may 

>>>> 
shoot to wound or maim. 

>>>>>> So I'd like 
everyone to take that 

>threat to heart. 

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> At this point, we 
have two new 

>important 

>>>> 
observations and think the 

>>>>>> strewnfield 
to be east of 19 now. 

>>>>>> At this point, 
there have been no Z 

>sightings, but 

>>>> the Black Panther 

>>>>>> remains 
a constant threat. 5 dogs were 

>killed. 

>>>> Also, the park rangers 

>>>>>> at 
the state park warned us that a 

>mountain lion 

>>>> has been spotted in the 

>>>>>> area. 

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> Some sonic boom activity has been 

>traced back to 

>>>> some 
individual using 

>>>>>> some kind of reactive 
explosive that 

>detonates when 

>>>> shot by a bullet. 

>>>>>> The 
local police has informed us this 

>has been a 

>>>> bit of a problem for 

>>>>>> weeks. Consequently, it really screws 

>up our 

>>>> acoustical survey. 

>>>>>> and a mention and big hand to Dirk 

>Ross, David 

>>>> Gonzales, and Marc Fries 

>>>>>> for giving us back support. 

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> -mccartney taylor& stephen 

>thompson 

>>>>>> (meteorite hunter) (offical panther 

>bait) 

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> 

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