[meteorite-list] Scam Artist - Joel Samson - FakeLunar Meteorites

[Galactic Stone & Ironworks]

Hi Gang,

Ken Newton's website is a good start.  There is a long list of
scammers, suspect eBay sellers, and known meteorwrongs.  In my mind,
it's the quasi-official Hall of Shame.

http://meteorite-identification.com/

If we all chip in and do what we can, the meteorite market can
self-police itself.  But we need to share information on the bad guys
and make it readily available to those who are trying to check out
their sellers.  List members can post to this list, but not every
collector is a member of this list and some don't think to check here
while researching their sellers or a suspect offer.

Best regards,

MikeG


On 5/12/11, Anita Westlake <anitawestlake at att.net> wrote:
> Hi Al and all:
>   I like the idea of a list of possible scammers and their suspect
> meteorites. I
> would err on the side of caution though, and hope the list be extremely
> careful
> about "name calling" in the event someone would be inclined to sue for
> defamation. I wouldn't use words like "scammer" or "fraud" or anything with
> a
> bad connotation. Perhaps something less jolting like "suspected" or
> "alleged"
> might be better?
>   Good luck. I hope the list comes to fruition.
> Anita
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: al mitt <almitt at kconline.com>
> To: Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> Cc: Chris Spratt <cspratt at islandnet.com>
> Sent: Thu, May 12, 2011 8:57:42 AM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Scam Artist - Joel Samson - FakeLunar
> Meteorites
>
> Hi Gary, Greg H., Chris and all,
>
> Two names have come up recently as scammers. Joel Samson and Todd Parker. We
> also know of another guy from the Chicago area that is a fraud. What I would
> like to see is a list of people and companies that are known to be selling
> fakes, mis-representing material and so forth. I am not talking about
> someone who has made a mistake.
>
> In order to qualify, the person or company in question would have to have
> evidence that would support their efforts to be purposely doing something
> wrong. I wouldn't want a witch hunt or dealers who don't like other dealers,
> trying to put people on this list. I know this is probably going to open a
> can of worms BUT it is important to know suspect con artists, frauds and
> people and companies who are just not getting the fact we don't like our
> collections messed up.
>
> Does a list already exist? If not it sure would be nice to have one that
> could be shared with the collecting community from time to time. Other input
> appreciated.
>
> --AL Mitterling
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gary Fujihara" <fujmon at mac.com>
> To: "Chris Spratt" <cspratt at islandnet.com>
> Cc: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 3:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Scam Artist - Joel Samson - FakeLunar
> Meteorites
>
>
>> I've asked the administrator of the Meteorites group on Facebook to remove
>> this person from the group.  Hopefully this will put a damper on his
>> shenanigans, but probably nothing short of legal action will make him
>> cease and desist.
>>
>> gary
>>
>> On May 11, 2011, at 8:50 AM, Chris Spratt wrote:
>>
>>> Never was my friend on Facebook yet he managed to post things in a group
>>> I belong to. Is there a way to unfriend someone from a group?
>>>
>>> Chris Spratt
>>> (Via my iPhone)
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>> 105 Puhili Place, Hilo, Hawai'i 96720
>> http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/
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