[meteorite-list] ALH 84001

[Becky and Kirk]

Shawn makes some very good points indeed!

Kirk......:-)
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From: "Shawn Alan" <photophlow at yahoo.com>
To: <epgrondine at yahoo.com>
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Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 9:50 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ALH 84001


> Hello Listers,
>
> There is a great documentary by National Geographic / Naked Science called 
> Alien Falls which the bulk of the episode is about the Grimsby meteorite 
> fall but there is a five minute segment concerning the ALH84001 meteorite. 
> David McKay, astrobiologist from NASA Johnson Space Center and his team of 
> scientist go into great detail in explain how magnetites found in the 
> ALH84001 meteorite could possibly be fossils from bacteria from Mars.
>
> In the video, McKay explains this process by stating that his scientific 
> team  found within the ALH84001 meteorite golden spherical shaped disks 
> called carbonates, which could indicate that these carbonates came from an 
> environment where there was water or is water.
>
> Within the carbonates the scientists found magnetite chains that resemble 
> magnetite chains found in magnetotactic bacteria on Earth. McKay in the 
> documentary believes that’s these magnetite chains could be traces of 
> bacteria fossils from Mars. On Earth when a magnetotactic bacteria decay, 
> what is left is a magnetite chain, which could suggest that these chains 
> found in the carbonates from ALH84001 meteorite could be an indication 
> that they came from bacteria that formed in or around water.
>
> With the proof that there was water on Mars and that there might still be 
> water on Mars one could conclude that at one time, there might have been 
> life on that red, desolate, planet we call Mars which has been around 
> since the birth of the solar system, 4.6 billion years ago. That is a lot 
> of time for the life and death of any species or bacteria to form, live, 
> die, and decay.
>
> I wonder how long it would take the Earth to rot away to its true natural 
> state if the atmosphere and magnetic field was gone? One million years and 
> all signs of civilization could be erased and only mother Earths raw 
> natural state to show for… Something to think about when considering if 
> life does or did existed elsewhere. Earth 4.6 billion years…. Universe 
> about 14 billion years and counting.
>
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>
> Shawn Alan
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> [meteorite-list] ALH 84001
> E.P. Grondine epgrondine at yahoo.com
> Sun Mar 6 16:05:33 EST 2011
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> Hi all -
>
> Some of you may remember several years back my several part tale of my 
> dramatic involvement (and lack therof) in the breaking of the ALH84001 
> fossils story.
>
> For what its worth, I think that those strcutures are fossils, based on my 
> conversation at that time with Dr. MacKay's SEM specialist. He found that 
> the PHAs were bound by the structures' walls, and the later finds of 
> magnetite grains in the structure appear to me as a below surface sensory 
> mechanism.
>
> I tend to go with Marc on this news, and with his analysis of how the 
> error occured.
>
> E.P. Grondine
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