[meteorite-list] Identification of 2 historical meteorites from S America

MexicoDoug mexicodoug at aim.com
Sun Jun 26 20:25:36 EDT 2011


Cher Renaud, it's a joy to see your post on the list!!

For the "Atacama" sample, you might check to see if Grenville Turner is 
still active. Contact Drs. Grady or Benedix (who might also be 
list-members) if you don't have another lead to contact him.

Bon courage with the enterprise!
Doug


-----Original Message-----
From: rm31 at free.fr
To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Sun, Jun 26, 2011 7:14 pm
Subject: [meteorite-list] Identification of 2 historical meteorites 
from S America


Hi List,

I've been following the list for about a year now and this is my first 
post. I
must say I've learned a lot from you even, sometimes, in the middle of 
an heated
discussion. Meteorites definitely bring a lot of passions.

I'm a geologist, French and I live in Toulouse, a busy city of SW 
France -Airbus
main factory and office are here- but where people know how to relax. 
Toulouse
is also where the oldest western academy was founded, the "Academy of 
the Floral
Games" or "College of the Happy Science", in 1323!

I'm pursuing some historical researches about meteorites. I've 
collaborated
off-list with Mark Grossman (hello Mark!) on several issues -check his
"meteorite manuscripts" blog if you haven't already. Aside from my main 
study,
that I'll present later, I'm doing an history-focused catalogue of the
meteorites that are kept in Toulouse in 2 collections, University and 
Museum.
The Natural History Museum is a small but nice one and was entirely 
renovated a
few years ago. The meteorite collection is also small but we have here 
about a
half kg of Orgueil (located about 35 km N of Toulouse), two fist-sized 
Ausson
samples and the unique and 99% complete 14 kg stone of Saint Sauveur 
(EH5) that
fell a few days before the onset of WW1, in 1914, 15 km N of Toulouse:
http://www.museum.toulouse.fr/explorer_3/les_collections_20/roches_mineraux_80/meteorites_424/chondrite_enstatite_426/index.html?lang=fr

We have some trouble to identify 2 meteorites from the Museum, that's 
why I'm
calling for help. Many of you have seen lots of meteorites and you may
specifically recognize these stones before or have information that may 
lead to
their identification. I give below all the information I have (be 
careful, some
may be erroneous) and links to pictures.

#1: so called "Atacama", sometimes with "Perou" attached
3 irons, 8,5+1,7+0,5 g
acquired by the Museum possibly before 1842, certainly before 1866
"Fragment of the mass kept in Vienna. Analyzed by Turner: Fe 93,40, Ni 
6,62, Cr
0,54"
http://i29.servimg.com/u/f29/10/09/49/44/atacam10.jpg

#2: so called "Perou"
1 iron, possibly a weathered pallassite, 15 g
acquired in 1958 or later
http://i29.servimg.com/u/f29/10/09/49/44/parou10.jpg

Hope you can help!

Renaud
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