[meteorite-list] NASA sues Moonwalker Astronaut

Norm Lehrman nlehrman at nvbell.net
Mon Jul 4 10:16:59 EDT 2011


List,
This is getting totally out of hand.  Did any of you catch this press release?
“NASA officials are demanding the return of the mission shoulder patch that 
Bruce Willis sent back to Billy Bob Thornton in the 1998 film Armageddon.  While 
acknowledging that this was just a film, NASA claims the shoulder patch is 
never-the-less a national treasure, and the actor that saved all mankind from 
certain destruction by an earth-smashing asteroid had no right to salvage and 
transfer ownership of the mission patch.  “Although fictional, this mission is 
seen by many as a likely future event, and as such, all of the memorabilia from 
the film is being recovered and safeguarded for the day when they become sacred 
objects associated with the prophecy of NASA’s brightest moment” claimed inside 
sources who asked to keep their identities confidential. “Insofar as they used 
the NASA insignia, we have been advised to assert ownership now rather than 
after the portrayed event has taken place". "   (source publication not 
disclosed)
 
What next?
Norm



----- Original Message ----
From: Martin Altmann <altmann at meteorite-martin.de>
To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Mon, July 4, 2011 4:17:37 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NASA sues Moonwalker Astronaut

Indeed it is not so much a legal question, it is a question of decency.

Seems that a new generation was bred by NASA.
How disrespectful and ungrateful can you still be for that by all means truly 
heroic deeds the astronauts did for NASA and the nation, to molest them now at 
their old-age with such a petty and greedy idiocy!

I think, it's a question of reason and saving the face of that governmental 
spaceflight organization to remove these shameless rugrats, who had that 
brilliant idea, immediately from their jobs.

NASA was scrooge enough to them with their Moon rocks.

Meteorite people are different...
Look, here Mitchell receives a piece of Moon via Tim Heitz:
http://www.meteorman.org/Ed-Mitchell.htm


Best,
Martin



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[mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von MexicoDoug
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http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/90053154?U.S.%20government%20sues%20former%20astronaut%20over%20lunar%20camera#ixzz1R7PMDp3p


Dear list,

This is a very relevant case to meteorites and should not be taken 
lightly.

They're at it again ... rewriting history and after 40 years of NASA's 
permission to take mementos from the Apollo era - now suing the sixth 
man to walk on the moon, Edgar Mitchell of Apollo 11, for trying to 
sell the camera they allowed him to have ... the precedent, I suspect 
is the identical one to the dust on the tape, which didn't exist, but 
they are gunning for now.

Again, we are faced with the erosion of sensible property rights, a 
violation of traditional English and Roman law regarding the importance 
of possession IMO, in an effort to legislation effort from the bench at 
its finest (sarcasm). The question at hand: Can we apply today's 
standards retroactively to say NASA was wrong to allow astronauts to 
have things that were of no use to NASA at the time and with the full 
knowledge of NASA allowed to be kept by those involved. After 40 years 
of knowledge that the astronaut possessed this camera and other sundry 
things, it becomes a precedent, and NASA is even painting an American 
hero with a scarlet letter of "T" for "Thief"....

From the article:

"During the Apollo mission era, Mitchell said he and other astronauts 
got permission to take mementos from the spacecrafts. "We have dozens 
of pieces. All of us who flew to the moon," he said in a Palm Beach 
Post report.

Mitchell’s lawyer, Donald Jacobson, said, "Objects from the lunar trips 
to the moon were ultimately mounted and then presented to the 
astronauts as a gift after they had helped NASA on a mission."

The government is asking the court to order Mitchell to hand over the 
camera, and declare that it has "good, clean and exclusive title" to 
the piece of space history.


Best wishes
Doug
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