[meteorite-list] AD(?) - Sikhote-Alin in tree

[John Birdsell]

Hi Ted....good point. If a tree branch was collected many, many years ago, it 
could have fewer growth rings, and might also be expected to show some signs of 
its age. 


-J

I have seen three specimens that exceed 80 years and several that are too 
young, so be careful. A Russian dealer friend of mine says that all of the 
genuine specimens were gathered years ago, but some may have been kept for 
future sale as we know the Arab dealers do with meteorites. 

Be careful out there. 

Ted Bunch 



----- Original Message ----
From: John Birdsell <johnbirdsell at yahoo.com>
To: John Birdsell <johnbirdsell at yahoo.com>; Darryl Pitt <darryl at dof3.com>; 
Impactika at aol.com
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Sent: Wed, January 12, 2011 10:25:22 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD(?) - Sikhote-Alin in tree

One year's growth should be represented by a light colored early growth band AND 

a dark colored late growth band...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dendrochronology





----- Original Message ----
From: John Birdsell <johnbirdsell at yahoo.com>
To: Darryl Pitt <darryl at dof3.com>; Impactika at aol.com
Cc: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Wed, January 12, 2011 10:04:33 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD(?) - Sikhote-Alin in tree

Count the annual growth rings in the base of the branch....if a tree was alive 
in 1947 there should be more than 64.


-J





----- Original Message ----
From: Darryl Pitt <darryl at dof3.com>
To: Impactika at aol.com
Cc: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Tue, January 11, 2011 8:35:15 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD(?) - Sikhote-Alin in tree


Hi, 

While I am not challenging the integrity of Anne's specimen, there is something 
I should share:  about a decade ago I was informed by an unimpeachable source as 


to the existence of what is basically a nursery outside of Vladivostok where SAs 


have been wedged into the knots and the forked limbs of a rapidly growing specie 


of tree for later "harvest."  I was informed that branches are frequently bound 
around the meteorite to assist in the embedment.  I saw one such example and it 
was...impressive.  


Little scary, right?

In an effort that provides a faster turnaround, I was recently informed 
lightning rods are being inserted into strategic locations in Saharan sands in 
the effort to produce and harvest flared saharite---the beautifully flanged 
Saharan fulgurites. 


Certainly less scary as there is no effort to deceive.  Clever, actually---and 
yet bothersome as well. 


d,








On Jan 11, 2011, at 8:23 PM, Impactika at aol.com wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> Since Michael Blood mentionned Sikhote-Alins embedded in trees in his 
> latest "Market Trends" article, and warned everybody against them. And since I 



> have received a few questions about the one I aquired a few months ago, let me 



> try to set the record straight:
> 
> First, here are 2 pictures, the whole thing, and a close-up:
> 
> _http://www.impactika.com/images/satree.jpg_ 
> (http://www.impactika.com/images/satree.jpg) 
> 
> _http://www.impactika.com/images/satree2.jpg_ 
> (http://www.impactika.com/images/satree2.jpg)  
> 
> It is much bigger than any I have seen before, and the Sikhote-Alin is 
> truly inside the tree. 
> And a member who happens to be an hoticulturist looked at the pictures and 
> wrote: "Looks pretty real to me Anne!  It probably impailed itself into the 
> tree and then the tree grew around it, which explains the "bark" around it". 
> (Thank you Craig!)
> Also I counted the rings, not easy, but there are at least 45. And I trust 
> the Russian dealer I bought it from. 
> So, yes I believe that it is the real/authentic deal, not a scam.  
> 
> And if you want to have a better look at it, it will be in my room in 
> Tucson (Hotel Tucson City Center, Formerly InnSuites, Room 322).
> Speaking of Sikhote-Alin, you will also see there two Sikhote-Alins in "as 
> found" condition that I obtained from the Vernadsky Institute. Yes, with all 
> the paperwork!
> 
> See you all there very soon.
> 
> Anne M. Black
> http://www.impactika.com/
> IMPACTIKA at aol.com
> President, I.M.C.A. Inc.
> http://www.imca.cc/
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