[meteorite-list] Tucson Auction

[Michael Blood]

Goran,
        I would suggest you never do business with meteorite dealer
You think may jerk you around as you suggested I might below.
        Sincerely, Michael

On 2/25/11 6:40 AM, "Göran Axelsson" <axelsson at acc.umu.se> wrote:

> Very well written!
> 
> Keeping the results "secret" will only create doubt in those of us that
> put in a absentee bid and couldn't visit (I live in Sweden) or watch the
> broadcast (I fell asleep).
> 
> This year I had a couple of low bids but didn't win any of them. I've
> been a absentee bidder for a couple of years now and won some and lost some.
> A couple of times I've put in an absentee bid higher than the winning
> bid but didn't win the piece anyhow as Michael made mistakes during the
> auction. This have happened more than once for me (2007 3 lots, 2009 2
> lots).
> If I ask for a list of realised prices in private, what would keep him
> from adjusting it according to my bids to keep me in the dark if he made
> another mistake. Was it a mistake or did he favour one of his friends?
> 
> I say, publish the prices to keep the doubt and mistrust out of the auction.
> 
> I don't know if I will make any bids next year. It will probably depend
> on if the prices is publicised or not.
> The only reason I see to keep the result secret is to keep the auction
> as a dealer - dealer event and to keep the prices down. By revealing
> that you can get a great deal would attract more bidders.
> 
> At least I would like to know the final prices of the following lots. I
> also reveal my absentee bids if anyone is interested.
> 
> Lot 6 ETw 1 Moss 648mg                 $45
> Lot 71 TM 1 Moldavite                     $65
> Lot 76 DP 2 Lovina (ANOM Iron)    $40
> Lot 77 DP 3 Hvittis (EL6)                 $90
> 
> /Göran
> 
> 
> John.L.Cabassi wrote:
>> G'Day Michael, List and All
>> I'm a little perplexed over this statement. You've got to remember that
>> this was a live auction, many people viewed it, there were a lot of
>> comments made. But why are we trying to hide something here? Aren't we
>> trying to be honest? Not even with the buyers, but with the public that
>> view this list? We're just adding to meteorite buyers / collectors being
>> corrupt. We don't need to hide anything and we don't need to give those
>> that frequent these pages fire power to say that we're not legit.
>> 
>> I'm sorry, I disagree with this whole thing. Make it be known, make it
>> be public. That's the only way we're going to move forward from being
>> negative.  That's just my thoughts and not anyone else's. But I'm a
>> little concerned about the non-transparency. Bear with me, I'm not out
>> to condone anybody, but give it some thought.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> John
>> IMCA # 2125
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
>> [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of
>> Michael Blood
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 7:00 PM
>> To: Richard Montgomery; Met. Darryl Pitt
>> Cc: Meteorite List
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson Auction
>> 
>> 
>> 1) I responded to Darryl off list.
>> 2) OK, if anyone wants the results, email me OFF LIST.
>>         Michael
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 2/23/11 6:35 PM, "Richard Montgomery" <rickmont at earthlink.net> wrote:
>> 
>>   
>>> Darryl makes a monumental point.  While, as someone who couldn't
>>> attend the auction, I originally asked the List if there was any way
>>> to know the final-sales-prices of the auction, hoping I could find
>>> them somewhere....Now I suggest that Michael, Capt. Blood, makes them
>>> available only off-list by request to avoid publication in a rogue
>>> journal or hyped newspaper/journal adventure bent on achieving TV
>>> ratings....somehow for those of us who still don't know (I listened to
>>>     
>> 
>>   
>>> the whole Ruben-feed but didn't take notes).
>>> 
>>> I know that there will be a bunch of posts about this  (no pun
>>> intended to our most respected meteoriticist, TB )...
>>> 
>>> Kevin K, what do you think?
>>> 
>>> Respect intended,
>>>  Richard Montgomery
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Darryl Pitt" <darryl at dof3.com>
>>> To: "Michael Blood" <mlblood at cox.net>
>>> Cc: "Meteorite List" <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 5:46 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ad
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Michael,
>>> 
>>> Please do consider not publicly posting the auction results---or if
>>> you are intent to do so, I urge you to consider making it absolutely
>>> clear the auction occurs at a wholesale marketplace and the prices
>>> attained reflect the same.
>>> 
>>> The last thing needed is more confusion for the growing legion of new
>>> buyers who are exasperated in their efforts to navigate the murky
>>> waters of meteorite valuation.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thank you for your consideration.   All the best / Darryl
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Feb 23, 2011, at 7:24 PM, Michael Blood wrote:
>>> 
>>>     
>>>> Finally got everything off - looks like I will survive.....barely.
>>>>        Soon to come: Auction results/prices
>>>> 
>>>>        Here are some goodies:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>         HAPPY HUNTING!  Michael
>>>> 
>>>> All specimens may be seen at:
>>>> 
>>>> http://michaelbloodmeteorites.com/Sale.html
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> BRENHAM ­ extremely thin sealed in oil in thick plastic.
>>>>         This should never rust. Increadable surface area to
>>>>         Weight. 18.3g ­ huge = $275 SALE = $175-
>>>> 
>>>> DEPORT, Tx. This specimen is the 11th specimen collected
>>>>         In the Monig Collection ­ ³1K² (1A sold for $6.5K in the
>>>> auction ($25/g) This 41.37g specimen cost me a considerable amount
>>>> and is available for $600-
>>>> 
>>>> CAMPO 7.9Kg (This was by far the best specimen in this weight range I
>>>>       
>> 
>>   
>>>> saw at the show) and stands nicely on
>>>>         One side and also stands upright = $600- Sale= $500-
>>>> 
>>>> NWA2737 (Chassignite) Extremely rare 3 sizes: #1 = $35=
>>>>         #2 or #3 = $45,  #4 = $60
>>>> 
>>>> http://michaelbloodmeteorites.com/Sale.html
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> MILLBILLILLIE ­ thin with exceptional surface area
>>>>         #1 = $35
>>>>         #2 = $40
>>>>         #3 = $50
>>>> 
>>>> ODESSA Small specimens a little larger than golf balls. These
>>>>         I have not seen in years and only from the person I got them
>>>>         From and I got all he had. (Photo shows both sides of each)
>>>>         73.5g = $150-
>>>>         109.6g = $220-
>>>>         112,5g = $225-
>>>>         123.1g = $245-
>>>> 
>>>> http://michaelbloodmeteorites.com/Sale.html
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> STANNERN (Eucrite) May 22,1808 Czeck Rep.
>>>>         #1 = SOLD
>>>>         #2 = $50-
>>>>         #3 = $55-
>>>> 
>>>> LIBYAN DESERT GLASS ­ Huge speciem
>>>>         752.3g = $1,500- SALE = $850-
>>>> 
>>>> http://michaelbloodmeteorites.com/Sale.html
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> CHANGXING China .259g = SOLD
>>>> 
>>>> UNIDENTIFIED NWA 2,612.5g Whole Stone.
>>>>         98%+ Fusion Crusted
>>>>         = 40c/g = $1,045 SALE = under 29c/g = $750
>>>> 
>>>> HENBURY Nice, small specimens with character
>>>>         = $3/g ­ sale = under $2.25/g
>>>>         38.2g = $114- SALE = $85-
>>>>         67.4g = $202- SALE = $150-
>>>>         70.8g = $222- SALE = $159-
>>>> 
>>>> TATAHUINE Superb specimen = $65- SALE $50-
>>>> 
>>>> http://michaelbloodmeteorites.com/Sale.html
>>>> 
>>>> NWA 6355 Lunar Full Slice 14.68g
>>>>         See full description of this full slice at:
>>>> 
>>>> http://michaelbloodmeteorites.com/NWA6355_14_68g
>>>> 
>>>>         14.68g = $700/g (here and elsewhere) = $10,275-
>>>>          SALE PRICE: under $550/g = $8,000-
>>>> 
>>>> S-A 133.6g = $400- SALE = $275-
>>>> 
>>>> CHICXULUB Micro-Tektites from Haiti in Riker Display
>>>>         = $40- SALE = $30-
>>>> 
>>>> MUONIONALUSTA
>>>>         152g Supurb Etched Full Slice = $1,520- SALE = $750-
>>>> 
>>>> See all specimens at: http://michaelbloodmeteorites.com/Sale.html
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>>>       
>> 
>>   
>>>> Mark Twain
>>>> --
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>>>> 2. Whenever you're right, shut up.
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